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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.


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To: KenyanBCPunkster
And he holds that office until such time as he may be removed by way of impeachment and subsequent conviction by Congress.

Not necessarily. If he is an illegitimate office holder, with no rights to hold said office in the first place, he could be removed without impeachment and Senate trial.

3,201 posted on 03/07/2010 1:34:13 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Darksheare

He is Wigout, I’m sure.

A fraud, just like his master.


3,202 posted on 03/07/2010 1:34:43 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah

They’re swapping handles.
Multiple people using the same handles, or at least it sure sounds like it.


3,203 posted on 03/07/2010 1:36:22 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: Darksheare
And just because some clown ‘got the requisite number of votes’ doesn’t mean he’s competent OR eligible.

But it does mean that he is currently President of the United States until such time as he is removed from that office by Congress.

The Constitution can be a bitch sometimes, but it is what it is until such time as it's amended.


3,204 posted on 03/07/2010 1:36:48 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

No it does not.
If he is not eligible, he is NOT the holder of the office PERIOD.
And it then is not in Congress hands to remove him.
You sure like to chase your own tail don’t you?
If I threw a stick, would you chase that?


3,205 posted on 03/07/2010 1:37:56 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: little jeremiah; Darksheare
I thought so too.

Keep in mind he only showed up to answer questions about the BC he says he forged. We don't even know if it's really that person. Anyway, he answered the questions. And he's still posting.

3,206 posted on 03/07/2010 1:38:01 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Red Steel
Kenyan punk'd aka Grima Wormtongue:

Would you care to show me that provision in the Constitution?

Red Steel:

Would you care to show me where in the Constitution where it says someone who is not a natural born citizen qualifies to be president?

touche.

3,207 posted on 03/07/2010 1:38:04 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Darksheare

LOL!

I’ve seen rubber bands sharper than their minds.


3,208 posted on 03/07/2010 1:38:45 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah

There are rocks and dog stuffing more intelligent than the trolls.


3,209 posted on 03/07/2010 1:39:33 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

And he holds that office until such time as he may be removed by way of impeachment and subsequent conviction by Congress.


And that may happen sooner than you think!


3,210 posted on 03/07/2010 1:39:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Darksheare

He’s also a stupid a**hole.

Uncontrolled anger makes people stupid.


3,211 posted on 03/07/2010 1:40:31 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah

I hate trolls like him.
I really do.


3,212 posted on 03/07/2010 1:41:07 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

You can respond to that, but you cannot answer this question:

“Michael Michael was Steve Eddy. “

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS, SIR?

“Ender was not Michael Michael.”

And HOW do you know THAT?
So who is he?
And why should we believe YOU?


3,213 posted on 03/07/2010 1:42:08 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster
The Constitution can be a bitch sometimes, but it is what it is until such time as it's amended.

A putative president would not need to be impeached by Congress for removal from office.

3,214 posted on 03/07/2010 1:45:16 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Rephrase.

A putative president [ found not eligible ] would not need to be impeached by Congress to be removed from office.


3,215 posted on 03/07/2010 1:48:38 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Not necessarily. If he is an illegitimate office holder, with no rights to hold said office in the first place, he could be removed without impeachment and Senate trial.

No, he couldn't. There's no other body beside Congress with the Constitutional authority to bring such charges against a sitting President in the first place, let alone remove him from office.


3,216 posted on 03/07/2010 1:49:02 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

Yes he could.
What happens to someone who is ineligible for an office?
They get removed without review.


3,217 posted on 03/07/2010 1:50:01 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

You said: “Michael Michael was Steve Eddy. “

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS, SIR?

“Ender was not Michael Michael.”

And HOW do you know THAT?
So who is he?
And why should we believe YOU?


3,218 posted on 03/07/2010 1:52:39 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster
No, he couldn't. There's no other body beside Congress with the Constitutional authority to bring such charges against a sitting President in the first place, let alone remove him from office.

Have you ever heard of Quo Warranto?




Quo Warranto

The common law writ of quo warranto has been suppressed at the federal level in the United States, and deprecated at the state level, but remains a right under the Ninth Amendment which was understood and presumed by the Founders, and which affords the only judicial remedy for violations of the Constitution by public officials and agents. Here are a few writings on the subject. Revival of the writs must be combined with reviving standing for private prosecution of public rights, subverted by the decision in Frothingham v. Mellon, 262 U.S. 447 (1923), which is discussed in an article by Steve Winter, The Metaphor of Standing and the Problem of Self-Governance.

3,219 posted on 03/07/2010 1:52:52 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: KenyanBCPunkster; Red Steel

If he doesn’t hold office legitimately, the Constitutional provisions do not apply as he is NOT the President.


3,220 posted on 03/07/2010 1:54:21 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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