Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".
The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:
In regards to the terms date accepted and date filed on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms Date accepted by the State Registrar and Date filed by the State Registrar referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of Oahu or on the neighbor islands of Kauai, Hawaii, Maui, Molokai, or Lanai), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of Oahu) respectively.
MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the Date filed by the State Registrar is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).
There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obamas Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).
There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.
“Not the first time hes been outed.”
True. I have often been mistaken for a Birther and have in fact often posted pro-Birther things. /s
parsy, the shy, who says, yeah that must have been some real hard work to “out” me....as a non-birther——ROTFLMAO!!!!
I have no interest in talking to you.
The Picture of Dorian Gray.
Of course not, but you have an interest in talking “about” me and posting false stuff that you find on the internet, like I’m the only parsifal out there.
You just don’t like anyone fighting back. But I will respect your wishes.
parsy, the dignified Freeper!
Yeah.
It’s not blind faith in liars. It’s that people like him don’t care about the truth, and want the truth to continue to be hidden from view.
I agree 100%. I never respond to them and don’t read their repetetive lies only mean to disrupt or mine for info.
Of course, it’s not that I have much useful to add to the discussion anyway, I mostly read and learn.
“The Picture of Dorian Gray. “
The Picture of Damien Gay !
So when numerous African papers did stories on "Kenyan-born" BHO, did you believe that just because it was in the paper?
There are numerous possible reasons why newspapers could be reporting more that one person as "chief administrator" during the same time frame.
The most obvious reason is that each department in the hospital could have a chief administrator of that department simply as an alternate title for department head, so there could multiple chief administrators in the hospital for each department. Long titles take up precious space in newspaper stories and on administrative stamps and may be abbreviated for convenience.
Yes, the title feature on Smith's CPGH BC bears further investigation, but the seeming newspaper reporting discrepancy is not remotely proof that Lucas Smith has the image of a forged document.
Every honest American who is looking for the truth adds to this fact finding mission and discussion.
You never know what piece of the puzzle someone might come up with as this gets played out.
We just have to keep reading to learn every new twist and turn.
These trolls/American hating pieces of garbage are here to disrupt this flow of information.
It is obvious to anyone who is paying attention.
"To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obamas birth certificate has not been released to the public, that allegation is denied. To the extent this paragraph alleges that the birth certificate released to the public at the direction of President Obama is not a valid birth certificate or that such certificate is not sufficient proof of U.S. citizenship, those allegations are denied."
And .. the same tune they sing here:
35. Allegations concerning President Obama are subject to a pending motion to dismiss, and no response is therefore required. To the extent this paragraph alleges that the birth certificate released to the public at the direction of President Obama is not a valid birth certificate or that such certificate is not sufficient proof of U.S. citizenship, those allegations are denied.
To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States, the allegation is denied. Further, paragraph 35 contains conclusions of law, not factual allegations requiring a response, and on that basis, Defendants deny.
38. Allegations concerning President Obama are subject to a pending motion to dismiss, and no response is therefore required. To the extent this paragraph refers to a document,Defendants refer the Court to the document for a complete and accurate representation of its contents. To the extent this paragraph alleges that Lolo Soetoro is or ever was President Obamas father by birth or adoption, that allegation is denied. To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is or ever was a practicing Muslim, that allegation is denied.
The last blip in the Strunk case appears to be this, just before Exhibit 13, Pg. 223:
Docket Text:
MINUTE ORDER granting Motion to Stay Discovery. No Discovery shall take place until further order of the Court. Signed by Judge Richard J. Leon on 6/19/2009
However, I could have missed finding the last legal event.
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/612678/-/ukb32e/-/index.html
By MWAKERA MWAJEFA Posted Thursday, June 18 2009 at 22:31
“...Coast Provincial General Hospital chief administrator, Dr Heltan Maganga, said the first patient was diagnosed on June 1 and died the following day...”
I most assuredly agree.
PDF
I. THE B.C.G. VACCINATION CAMPAIGN IN KENYA
JELLIFFE and ANGAWA J Trop Pediatr.1966; 12: 7-8
http://tropej.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/12/supp3/7
TROPICAL PEDIATRICS!
http://tropej.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/12/supp3/7
SESSION 1. PRACTICAL IMMUNIZATION.
James O.W. Ang’awa, a PEDIATRICTIAN, discusses the IMMUNIZATION OF SCHOOL CHILDREN.
Do you mean "presenting the document" in court?
If so, why doesn't Obama do that?
If "Simply presenting the document" {in court} it would follow that "the case would be closed with no further investigation" would one even need a lawyer -- let alone several law firms -- to do that?
Your idea sounds pretty straightforward to me.
I like your idea.
So why do you suppose Obama's lawers don't follow your advise and present the document (birth certificate) in court?
STE=Q
J. Leon is saying since the Supreme Court has not ruled on the natural born citizen clause, Im not going to either. Bock bock.....
To the extent this paragraph alleges that the birth certificate released to the public at the direction of President Obama is not a valid birth certificate or that such certificate is not sufficient proof of U.S. citizenship, those allegations are denied.
J. Leon translation: I'm not going to find out what the real Obama birth certificate does say. Nope not going there...I'll sweep this under the rug too.
. To the extent this paragraph alleges that Lolo Soetoro is or ever was President Obamas father by birth or adoption, that allegation is denied
J. Leon translation: If I'm not going to address the issue if Obama is natural born citizen or check the bonafides about Obama's birth certificate, I'm certainly not going to complicate the matter by looking to see if Obama was ever a citizen of Indonesia. Run run away from this.
Dr Mangana dates CHECK.
Dr Ang’awa Pediatrician CHECK.
Dates on document Double System per wiki CHECK.
Anybody who believes that the statement that “Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen” is ambiguous does not know what the word ambiguous means.
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And NOT supported by Hawaii’s Attorney General who refuses to corroborate Obamas Birth in Hawaii or DEFEND FUKINOS STATEMENT THAT HE {OBAMA}IS NATURAL-BORN AMERICAN CITIZEN
STE=Q
I believe those denials are from the defendant,
not the judge.
I’m not sure of the current status, except
for that last Minute Order from last June.
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