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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.


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To: DJ MacWoW

“Not the first time he’s been outed.”

True. I have often been mistaken for a Birther and have in fact often posted pro-Birther things. /s

parsy, the shy, who says, yeah that must have been some real hard work to “out” me....as a non-birther——ROTFLMAO!!!!


2,301 posted on 03/01/2010 4:07:35 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal
You can try to deflect what's been found. That doesn't usually work.

I have no interest in talking to you.

2,302 posted on 03/01/2010 4:11:54 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

The Picture of Dorian Gray.

2,303 posted on 03/01/2010 4:13:22 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Of course not, but you have an interest in talking “about” me and posting false stuff that you find on the internet, like I’m the only parsifal out there.

You just don’t like anyone fighting back. But I will respect your wishes.

parsy, the dignified Freeper!


2,304 posted on 03/01/2010 4:14:20 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Fred Nerks

Yeah.


2,305 posted on 03/01/2010 4:27:35 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: BP2

It’s not blind faith in liars. It’s that people like him don’t care about the truth, and want the truth to continue to be hidden from view.


2,306 posted on 03/01/2010 4:28:45 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamay)
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To: Aurorales

I agree 100%. I never respond to them and don’t read their repetetive lies only mean to disrupt or mine for info.

Of course, it’s not that I have much useful to add to the discussion anyway, I mostly read and learn.


2,307 posted on 03/01/2010 4:36:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamay)
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To: Fred Nerks; BP2

“The Picture of Dorian Gray. “

The Picture of Damien Gay !


2,308 posted on 03/01/2010 4:46:08 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: EnderWiggins; InspectorSmith
"Oooops. When Lucas Smith was forging that BC he didn't do enough googling to discover he had the wrong CA signing the document on the wrong date."

So when numerous African papers did stories on "Kenyan-born" BHO, did you believe that just because it was in the paper?

There are numerous possible reasons why newspapers could be reporting more that one person as "chief administrator" during the same time frame.

The most obvious reason is that each department in the hospital could have a chief administrator of that department simply as an alternate title for department head, so there could multiple chief administrators in the hospital for each department. Long titles take up precious space in newspaper stories and on administrative stamps and may be abbreviated for convenience.

Yes, the title feature on Smith's CPGH BC bears further investigation, but the seeming newspaper reporting discrepancy is not remotely proof that Lucas Smith has the image of a forged document.

2,309 posted on 03/01/2010 4:48:30 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: little jeremiah

Every honest American who is looking for the truth adds to this fact finding mission and discussion.

You never know what piece of the puzzle someone might come up with as this gets played out.
We just have to keep reading to learn every new twist and turn.

These trolls/American hating pieces of garbage are here to disrupt this flow of information.

It is obvious to anyone who is paying attention.


2,310 posted on 03/01/2010 5:09:37 PM PST by Aurorales
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To: BP2; Red Steel; Fred Nerks
FYI ... just checking if it appears, as it does to me, that the following par. from above merely represents the assertions of the O-fendant via his/our DOJ attorneys .. with as yet no appurtenant discovery proceedings .. as seems to be supported here.

"To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama’s birth certificate has not been released to the public, that allegation is denied. To the extent this paragraph alleges that the birth certificate released to the public at the direction of President Obama is not a valid birth certificate or that such certificate is not sufficient proof of U.S. citizenship, those allegations are denied."

And .. the same tune they sing here:

35. Allegations concerning President Obama are subject to a pending motion to dismiss, and no response is therefore required. To the extent this paragraph alleges that the birth certificate released to the public at the direction of President Obama is not a valid birth certificate or that such certificate is not sufficient proof of U.S. citizenship, those allegations are denied.

To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States, the allegation is denied. Further, paragraph 35 contains conclusions of law, not factual allegations requiring a response, and on that basis, Defendants deny.

38. Allegations concerning President Obama are subject to a pending motion to dismiss, and no response is therefore required. To the extent this paragraph refers to a document,Defendants refer the Court to the document for a complete and accurate representation of its contents. To the extent this paragraph alleges that Lolo Soetoro is or ever was President Obama’s father by birth or adoption, that allegation is denied. To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is or ever was a practicing Muslim, that allegation is denied.

The last blip in the Strunk case appears to be this, just before Exhibit 13, Pg. 223:

Docket Text:

MINUTE ORDER granting Motion to Stay Discovery. No Discovery shall take place until further order of the Court. Signed by Judge Richard J. Leon on 6/19/2009

However, I could have missed finding the last legal event.

2,311 posted on 03/01/2010 5:10:13 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Seizethecarp

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/612678/-/ukb32e/-/index.html

By MWAKERA MWAJEFA Posted Thursday, June 18 2009 at 22:31

“...Coast Provincial General Hospital chief administrator, Dr Heltan Maganga, said the first patient was diagnosed on June 1 and died the following day...”


2,312 posted on 03/01/2010 5:13:58 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: little jeremiah
DEFENDERS OF DARKNESS!
2,313 posted on 03/01/2010 5:33:44 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: parsifal
parsy, the dignified Freeper!

I most assuredly agree.

2,314 posted on 03/01/2010 5:43:28 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Seizethecarp

PDF
I. THE B.C.G. VACCINATION CAMPAIGN IN KENYA
JELLIFFE and ANGAWA J Trop Pediatr.1966; 12: 7-8

http://tropej.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/12/supp3/7

TROPICAL PEDIATRICS!

http://tropej.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/12/supp3/7

SESSION 1. PRACTICAL IMMUNIZATION.

James O.W. Ang’awa, a PEDIATRICTIAN, discusses the IMMUNIZATION OF SCHOOL CHILDREN.


2,315 posted on 03/01/2010 5:44:44 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: EnderWiggins; BP2
Simply presenting the document would meet the "prima facie" standard, and the case would be closed with no further investigation.

Do you mean "presenting the document" in court?

If so, why doesn't Obama do that?

If "Simply presenting the document" {in court} it would follow that "the case would be closed with no further investigation" would one even need a lawyer -- let alone several law firms -- to do that?

Your idea sounds pretty straightforward to me.

I like your idea.

So why do you suppose Obama's lawers don't follow your advise and present the document (birth certificate) in court?

STE=Q

2,316 posted on 03/01/2010 5:55:41 PM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: STARWISE
To the extent this paragraph alleges that President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States, the allegation is denied. Further, paragraph 35 contains conclusions of law, not factual allegations requiring a response, and on that basis, Defendants deny.

J. Leon is saying since the Supreme Court has not ruled on the natural born citizen clause, Im not going to either. Bock bock.....

To the extent this paragraph alleges that the birth certificate released to the public at the direction of President Obama is not a valid birth certificate or that such certificate is not sufficient proof of U.S. citizenship, those allegations are denied.

J. Leon translation: I'm not going to find out what the real Obama birth certificate does say. Nope not going there...I'll sweep this under the rug too.

. To the extent this paragraph alleges that Lolo Soetoro is or ever was President Obama’s father by birth or adoption, that allegation is denied

J. Leon translation: If I'm not going to address the issue if Obama is natural born citizen or check the bonafides about Obama's birth certificate, I'm certainly not going to complicate the matter by looking to see if Obama was ever a citizen of Indonesia. Run run away from this.

2,317 posted on 03/01/2010 6:06:31 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Seizethecarp

Dr Mangana dates CHECK.

Dr Ang’awa Pediatrician CHECK.

Dates on document Double System per wiki CHECK.


2,318 posted on 03/01/2010 6:10:58 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: EnderWiggins; edge919; All

Anybody who believes that the statement that “Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen” is ambiguous does not know what the word ambiguous means.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
And NOT supported by Hawaii’s Attorney General who refuses to corroborate Obama’s Birth in Hawaii or DEFEND FUKINO’S STATEMENT THAT HE {OBAMA}IS “NATURAL-BORN AMERICAN CITIZEN”

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/02/hi-attorney-generals-office-refuses-to-corroborate-obamas-hi-birth/

STE=Q


2,319 posted on 03/01/2010 6:23:07 PM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: Red Steel

I believe those denials are from the defendant,
not the judge.

I’m not sure of the current status, except
for that last Minute Order from last June.


2,320 posted on 03/01/2010 6:32:43 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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