DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible

Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

[butterdezillion]

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.

[patlin]

Don’t jump to conclusions because she is in the chair. My husband’s grandmother took her last 2 week cruise when she was 95 and in a similar chair.

She passed away just 3 mths shy of her 102nd birthday and was as sharp as a tack to the end.

[mojitojoe]

Who is the you all you are referring to? You’re a dope. Think outside the box for a change. I know you’re obsessed with Orly and all that sh*t, but seriously, he will be history in 2012 and it will probably never reach a courtroom. Just sit tight sunshine and wait until closer to the elections in 2012. Hell, your boy probably won’t even run again. He’ll may come up with some excuse like his kids want to move back to Chicago, or the Wookie is pregnant.

[curiosity]

Unless challenged. You do understand the meaning, both literal and legal, of prima-faciedo you not?

Yes. The problem is, birthers have no evidence with which to challange it.

If, after two years, birthers haven't been able to produce a shred of evidence that bambi was born outside Hawaii, what makes you think they could produce it now, or any time in the future?

Face it. You've got nothing.

[mojitojoe]

Hell, he may come up with some excuse like his kids want to move back to Chicago, or the Wookie is pregnant.

[mojitojoe]

Your boy is going down in 2012. Suck it up, accept it. He most likely will come up with an excuse not to run again, and if he doesn’t he will be exposed and the end result will be the same. He’s done. Over. Finished.

[parsifal]

Let me add some more to what I said so you will know I am being honest. This is from the November 2009 Indiana case, I think I gave you the cite to. The Birthers made their arguments. The Court sent them packing, to wit:

The Birther’s Argument (based on Vattel and the usual speeches):

Contrary to the thinking of most people on the subject, there’s a very clear distinction between a ‘citizen of the United States’ and a ‘natural born citizen.’(page 12)

(Now for the next 5 plus pages, the Court lets them know all about WONG. A string of cases and cites from Wong running all the way back to 1608 England!)

Now the Court is ready to rule:

The Court’s Smackdown of the Birthers : ( Short answer: No, there isn’t!) The longer answer:

Based upon the language of Art. II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “Natural Born Citizens” for Art. II, section 1. purposes, regardless of the citizenship of the parents.” (Page 17)

That’s pretty straightforward. The Birthers got one thing right-—the thinking of MOST PEOPLE is that there isn’t a difference.

And the link, in case I forgot it before:

http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/11120903.ebb.pdf

parsy, who hopes this helps

[parsifal]

He may well lose in 2012. Who knows. I do think he will have to produce a long form before then just to get the few extra percent of voters who would believe it.

parsy

[parsifal]

He may well lose in 2012. Who knows. I do think he will have to produce a long form before then just to get the few extra percent of voters who would believe it.

parsy

[lucysmom]

Plus, women tend to want to be around their momma when they have their first baby.

Speaking as a mom who has given birth to more than one baby, I find the whole Kenyan birth story vary hard to swallow indeed.

[parsifal]

Don’t you know it! 1961, she’s young, its her first baby. Oh yeah, Hawaii with mom and dad to help. An American hospital versus an African hospital. Mom and dad have enough money to fly her home. Yeah, it’s those little intangible things.

parsy

[BP2]

And lets look at two people who think they are making *sses out of themselves: Ann Coulter and Glen Beck. Got a big problem with either of them?

Palsy,

If you knew anything about the movement going on in the country that Ann, Beck or any of the other talking heads are tied to in some manner, you'd know that we're all individuals. As such, all have individual opinions on things like the Eligibility. There is no single figurehead — and therein lies the beauty of it. They are entitled to their opinions, as are we.

However, one thing we are ALL in agreement on is that Obama is a LIAR. Over and over again. In that, the numbers who support him are waning and the numbers working against him and his agenda are growing — everyday.

Rest assured ... Obama would MOST-CERTAINLY LIE about the facts surrounding his birth and youth to be president if it were necessary.
ON that you can TRUST.

Once a LIAR, always a LIAR ... both AFTER and BEFORE the Election

[Fred Nerks]

there was no marriage between Stanley Ann Dunham and O Senior. There are index items quoted, but not dates for either. And if you look closely at the index data quoted, you will see one is for OBAMA AND ONE IS FOR DUNHAN.

NOT DUNHAM. GET IT?

[Fred Nerks]

Was she on her own?

[Fred Nerks]

btw, that’s NOT a chair, it’s a walking aid.

[Fred Nerks]

Okubo responds to public outcry for investigation
RELEASES REDACTED PRINT-OUTS OF HAWAII BIRTH INDEX, WHICH IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS PROVE ONLY ONE THING
by John Charlton

(Feb. 26, 2010) — In response to the public outcry over my last report regarding Okubo’s apparently false response to my request for index data from the Hawaii Birth Index, Miss Janice Okubo has directed staff at the Hawaii Department of Health to release a pdf file containing what appears to be scans of a computer printout containing redacted pages from the Hawaii Birth Index for those sections, which would contain the surnames Payne, Dunham, Soetoro and Obama...

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/26/okubo-responds-to-public-outcry-for-investigation/

[Fred Nerks]

Hawaii Birth Index shows no Obama
The Post & Email ^

Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:58:21 PM by jdirt

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460406/posts

Already posted. The information provided does NOT relate to 1961.

[Beckwith]

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[Beckwith]

Just ignore this hemorrhoid, who has falsely represented himself to be an attorney.

[Beckwith]

This is how parsifal sees himself:



He's a fantasist with a lot of time on his hands, and based on the amount of time he spends on this forum, is still living in his mother's basement.

[DJ MacWoW]

There are a hadfull(*uckeye being one of them) that literally live on the BC threads.

I know. In 2008 I was a regular poster on these threads. But I got tired of the trolls. As I had told another poster back in the thread, why should I have to defend my opinion to people like him? I don't. But they demand answers and are rude when they don't get them. So I left the threads.