Posted on 08/09/2009 8:10:48 PM PDT by Gordon Greene
Just in case anyone missed it (and I think most did), there is little difference between the brother of Rahm Emanuel (Ezekial) and none other than Charles Robert Darwin.
I trust at this point most of you have seen the ravings of one of the lunatic healthcare advisors to Obama, the high potentate of all that is to be united. Ezekial Emanuel’s words could just as well have been spoken in the Third Reich and are as follows:
"When implemented, the Complete Lives system produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated... The Complete Lives system justifies preference to younger people because of priority to the worst-off rather than instrumental value."
Justification for killing children under the guise of abortion started with something as humanistic as “only in cases of rape and incest” and landed squarely in the passenger seat of “a woman’s right to choose”. As a society we have been flirting with euthanasia for some odd years now. Well, as incrementalism would have it, it is now beating down our doors and trying to take control of our healthcare system.
Another of Obama’s close compatriots, Cass Sunstein had this to say about his relationship with Obama:
“Not so long ago, the phone rang in my office. It was Barack Obama. For more than a decade, Obama was my colleague at the University of Chicago Law School. He is also a friend. But since his election to the Senate, he does not exactly call every day.”
This is a quote from Mr. Sunstein regarding the topic of healthcare:
"I urge that the government should indeed focus on life-years rather than lives. A program that saves young people produces more welfare than one that saves old people."
As a general rule, those in politics and academia do not speak in a vacuum. It is only through years of programming that these people, including Obama develop a callousness that is unmatched in normal society. The teachings of public education and education in our major universities have centered on the idea that Darwin’s theories are correct even against human and scientific evidence to the contrary. If you want to know where these radical thinkers derived their ideas, you need look no further than the writings of one Charles Robert Darwin.
“With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one up to the last moment. ..”
“Vaccination has preserved thousands who from a weak constitution would formerly have suc-cumbed to smallpox. Thus, the weak members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man....”
“ Excepting in the case of man himself, hardly anyone is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.”
“[Yet,] the aid which we feel impelled to give to the help¬less is mainly an incidental result of the [otherwise good] instinct of sympathy...”
“We must therefore bear the undoubtedly bad effects of the weak surviving and propagating their kind...”
Evolution… the survival of the fittest… we wonder why our children emerge from the higher institutions of learning and forsake our God, our morals and our teachings. They do so because the theory that is so pervasive in those institutions belittles our existence and lowers our relevance to that of a simple animal. Is humaneness in a society a trait to be honored? Yes. Are animals meant to be abused, neglected or treated dishonorably? No!
It’s perspective, man!!!
If there is no God and we are truly left to our own moral devices, then we are no more than animals. Our our worth is no greater than the sum of all our parts and any Evolutionist who claims the strength of their morality is being dishonest with themselves and dishonoring the very name of their evolutionary savior, Charles Darwin! Don’t tell me we are no greater than the animals that were placed on this earth to serve mankind and then brag to me that the strength of your convictions is greater than Christianity.
If you love The Origin of the Species, embrace it! Call Australian Aborigines, Blacks and Indians what your father called them… SAVAGES! Rave about the inferior female mind:
“. . . a higher eminence, in whatever he takes up, than can women—whether requiring deep thought, reason, or imagination, or merely the use of the senses and hands. If two lists were made of the most eminent men and women in poetry, painting, sculpture, music (inclusive of both composition and performance), history, science, and philosophy, with half-a-dozen names under each subject, the two lists would not bear comparison. We may also infer, from the law of the deviation from averages, so well illustrated by Mr. Galton, in his work on "Hereditary Genius" that . . . the average of mental power in man must be above that of women (Darwin, 1896:564).”
Be true to your roots as Evolutionists, supporting those like Emanuel and Sunstein who sound more like Darwin and Hitler than Jefferson or Reagan. You keep your faith and vote for healthcare reform: I’ll keep mine and fight Darwinism, Communism, Humanism, Socialism, Marxism and everything they stand for!
Or perhaps you could look into what it is Charles Darwin actually believed. Take note that your beliefs on the origin of the species are more in line with the Communist and Nazi than with the Christian. Don’t just listen to your mealy-mouthed professors who watered down the conclusions of a man possessed of the opinion that you came into this world from ancestors swinging from the trees. READ WHAT DARWIN ACTUALLY SAID. Then use the brain God put in your thick skulls to draw your own conclusions.
P.S. If you actually read Darwin’s writings and believe what the man said then, why do you consider yourself conservative? No, I really want an answer.
Question: Who said this?
"Man must realize that a fundamental law of necessity reigns throughout the whole realm of Nature and that his existence is subject to the law of eternal struggle and strife . . .where the strong are always the masters of the weak and where those subject to such laws must obey them or be destroyed, one general law leading to the advancement of all organic beings . . . let the strongest live and the weakest die."
Answer: Adolph Hitler (Now tell me how that differs from Darwin’s survival of the fittest mentality?)
You don't bear any resoponsibility for calling me over here and wasting my time reading it?
In that case, I don’t feel so bad. The “W” brothers made this thread almost unbearable so I can totally understand the move... I won’t make the mistake of following up on their comments again.
Why is it, not one of these guys can perform logic in a straight line? Their entire thought process operates in a circle...
My guess is that it all boils down to agenda. There’s no reason that they would hang in there on that Catholic thing like a booger on a doorknob if there wasn’t something they expected to get out of it. Last time I travel the rabbit-hole into their strange little world.
Sheesh!!!
You're a free agent. No one is forcing you to attend. As for my responsibility, I refer you to post #260: "As for my part of that offensive material, I would observe that failing all other recourse, one can always take exception to the “tone” of an argument. It is a last redoubt.
You can't seem to mount an adequate response to my points, but I get the feeling that somehow you want me to take ownership of your failure.
What points? You've disavowed any responsibility for the content of the article or bringing me over here to read it.
And rightly so. Presumably, you're an adult, capable of making your own decisions. You could have stopped at the title but instead decided, of your own free will presumably, (unless YHAOS came to your house and held a gun to your head) to engage.
Grow up and stop blame shifting.
This is posted in blogs/personal, and I wouldn't have bothered with it if my presence hadn't been requested. An adult, capable of making their own decisions, chose to ping me to an article they knew I wouldn't agree with. They initiated the exchange, and yet bear no responsibility for it. Any and all responsibility falls on the respondents. Is that how it works?
I refer you to post #260 (emphasis mine): "As for my part of that offensive material, I would observe that failing all other recourse, one can always take exception to the 'tone' of an argument."
You and I seem to be on the opposite side of some issues, and I’m reconciled with the fact that what I have to say will seldom satisfy you or meet with your approval. You can’t seem to bring yourself to deal with that.
As for “bringing” you “over here to read it.” That is so wrong on so many levels it is incomprehensible.
I defending you against BW and got him to retract his statements about you! And nary a comment from you about BW's retraction or my efforts to defend you. PLEASE!
That's ok. I won't ever bother defending you again against others that post falsely about your position. No mention of his retraction, no thank you to me for supporting you. And you talk about a lack of civility here.
Getting into the SBR is not the problem. How in the heck do I get out of here?
You’re not only confused about your own personal identity, you’re obviously confusing me with YHAOS. I believe it is the honor of YHAOS you so valiantly defended, you knight in shining armor, you.
*Please take note this post is for clarification and for the public good, not as a follow up to your comment. When I need you to defend me, I will request it (Please hold your breath... it will only be a moment).*
My mistake. I offer you my humble apology. You had posted that you had gone on a long time with BW and me last night and (without double checking) I posted to you when in fact it was editor-surveyor. Note that I didn't just assume that it was YHAOS, I learned from my mistake and checked to see.
Please note. I defend the truth. You do not have to ask me to defend you if your are attacked by untruths. I hope you have the integrity to defend the truth on this board.
Egad. I ended up back in the SBR. Now how did I get out of here the last time?
“Note that I didn’t just assume that it was YHAOS, I learned from my mistake and checked to see.”
Cool, calculated and smart! If the trickster does not learn from his mistakes, he will soon be snared by his own trap.
You have learned much, Weedhopper.
Why did you ping me to this article?
I hope you learned from your mistake and will check next time when falsely referring to another.
I think you got us into the SBR because you know it is a pain to get back out! You sneaky devil, you!
It's a place to put threads initiated under the influence of suspicious smoking.
“I think you got us into the SBR because you know it is a pain to get back out! You sneaky devil, you!”
If I had known it would happen, yes... that is something I would have done. And I would have gladly sacrificed myself if that were necessary.
But, as it were and if the truth be revealed... The SBR is, in fact Jim Robinson’s version of Hell. Once you are thrown into the lake of fire (SBR) there is no return and no great hope for salvation.
And, no... there are no true Catholics in the SBR nor any other Christians. A select few (like myself) are however allowed, on occasion to reach out from beyond with a drop of water dangling on the end of an index finger, offering it to any who wish their tongues to be cooled, if only slightly. It took a great deal of suffering on my part to acquire that privelege, as you well know (you were, of course sent by the Adversary (DU) to be one of my tormentors)!
Consider yourself blessed (And in the event I choose to extend a drop of water to your alter-ego, alert him that no “thanks” is necessary).
As a caveat, I would be remiss if I did not inform you this is no Catholic eternity. No one will be allowed to “pray” you out as it were! The only way you can be released is to pray to the good Jim, almighty for some special dispensation and hope to good Robinson he has some mercy on your poor souls...
I don’t think the odds are very good. You have been a collective BAD boy!!!
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