Posted on 09/22/2006 2:09:33 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
No thanks.
Some proofs are more suitable for the truly interested to dig out themselves. Cheap gold is not worth as much.
The religious PhD's of Christ's dusty pathed days often demanded proof. He was not inclined to comply.
Some gold is for family. And family membership tends to require commitment.
Here's some perspective on Lamarck in textbooks. This essay is a decade old, but still being referenced.
http://www.textbookleague.org/54marck.htm
But, Josh McDowell's
NEW EVIDENCE THAT DEMANDS A VERDICT is a great place to start.
That tired strawman. *sigh*
OK, one more time: The BB, although interesting, is NOT a part of TToE. You do not have to understand the origins of the Universe to describe evolutionary mechanics.
Now don't go telling me that isn't science. By the way, scientific conclusion is not necessarily fact. The scientific community would like us all to think so but many of us know better.
You misconstrue what a Scientific Theory is and what Scientific Fact is. People who understand science know the definitions (and they have been posted on these threads countless times).
Good reason for any publisher to drop the Lamarck story ~ it's simply hearsay.
Unfair, actually checking what the evidence is.
Some proofs are more suitable for the truly interested to dig out themselves. Cheap gold is not worth as much.
All you seem to have is assertions and tantrums. Can you not back up a single thing you say?
But I notice you are lighter on the caps lock key in the am.
Oh, yeah, another reason to drop Lamarckianism from biology books ~ both the original, and the made-up versions ~ it's "history" and not "biology", and its use for any purpose in a biology text belies the idea that "evolution is fundamental to biology".
Can you not back up a single thing you say?
But I notice you are lighter on the caps lock key in the am.
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Do you have the statistics to back that last sentence up?
BTW, I guess your blinders blocked out the reference to LINDA MOULTON HOWE--the best source on a couple of the topics lightly brushed?
Crop Circles or Alien Abductions?
I'm not the One who is into compelling belief.
Actually . . . I think belief is fairly strictly best/only entered into by invitation. The invitation is broadly extended.
Some dig truth out. Some ignore it. Some deny it. Some defend against it vigorously and elaborately.
The Truth remains, regardless.
Particularly in terms of YOUR faith based beliefs . . . goodness . . . trying to assail those sounds like an exercise in futility.
As I approach 60 in a few months, I'm increasingly trying to avoid seemingly useless exercises in futility and to engage in more fun activities.
You seem to enjoy what you do . . . at least there's a certain energetic fierceness about it. By all means, carry on! Much better to be cold or hot than luke warm.
She's a very experienced, ruthlessly scrupulous about facts and verifying the facts via multiple sources . . . sort of investigative journalist.
At this point, she's one of the world's best experts on both those topics.
Her website is a subscription website but some of her docs are available without it:
http://www.earthfiles.com
And her book
MYSTERIOUS LIGHTS AND CROP CIRCLES includes lots of the peer reviewed scientific journal data.
I realize most hereon are only interested in peer reviewed scientific journals that support their notions . . . but for those who are truly interested in the Truth . . . that book is a good source.
Biophysicist W. C. Levengood is one source worth checking out.
His research has been published in scholarly papers published by the international plant physiology journal:
PHYSIOLOGIA PLANTARUM
and the American
JOURNAL OF SCIENTIFIC EXPLORATION.
One paper in the latter was titled:
"Semi-Molten Meteoric Iron Associated with A Crop Formation 1995 Vol 9, No.2 pp191-199.
I post these for other folks.
I realize some only demand sources etc. to be cheeky and have no real interest in the facts.
I was joking -- I didn't think you were really talking about UFOlogy.
I have no interest in UFOs and the like. They certainly have to bearing on science (as framed in this discussion) or TToE.
You seem to be in a better mood this am (I don't have stats on that, though).
Good to see it.
I apologize for getting a bit caustic before. I sometimes let myself get dragged down the sarcasm level of others (I think I have apologized more on these threads than anyone else -- I get moody, too).
Time to go to work! Have a great day.
Where may these written testimonies be found?
Um, in the Bible. To be specific, the New Testament; all of it.
Here are some links to the text in the original language:
http://biblestudytools.net/InterlinearBible/
http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/~fisher/gnt/
http://www.ntgateway.com/greek/
What peer review exists for these written testimonies?
Within the books of the NT, the writers often refer to what other writers have written. IF that were false, they would have stated so.
Luke 1:1-4 Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile an account of the things accomplished among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and servants of the word, it seemed fitting for me as well, having investigated everything carefully from the beginning, to write it out for you in consecutive order, most excellent Theophilus; so that you may know the exact truth about the things you have been taught.
I John 1:1-3 What was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we have looked at and touched with our hands, concerning the Word of Life -- and the life was manifested, and we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us -- what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.
How can the events described in these testimonies be reproduced for independent observation by others?
Simple, anybody can do it (run the experiment , if you will); it's just a matter of repenting and trusting Christ for salvation. When that happens, a person is spiritually reborn. It happens every time. There are millions of people whose lives are changed as a result of this. They consistently give the same account. It can be observed internally by the person doing it and externally by seeing the change in the lives of the people who have done it. It's been well documented over thousands of years and there are people on this forum right now who can give testmony to that very thing happening in not only their lives but hte lives of their family and friends.
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