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What are Darwinists so afraid of?
worldnetdaily.com ^ | 07/27/2006 | Jonathan Witt

Posted on 07/27/2006 3:00:03 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels

What are Darwinists so afraid of?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: July 27, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Jonathan Witt © 2006

As a doctoral student at the University of Kansas in the '90s, I found that my professors came in all stripes, and that lazy ideas didn't get off easy. If some professor wanted to preach the virtues of communism after it had failed miserably in the Soviet Union, he was free to do so, but students were also free to hear from other professors who critically analyzed that position.

Conversely, students who believed capitalism and democracy were the great engines of human progress had to grapple with the best arguments against that view, meaning that in the end, they were better able to defend their beliefs.

Such a free marketplace of ideas is crucial to a solid education, and it's what the current Kansas science standards promote. These standards, like those adopted in other states and supported by a three-to-one margin among U.S. voters, don't call for teaching intelligent design. They call for schools to equip students to critically analyze modern evolutionary theory by teaching the evidence both for and against it.

The standards are good for students and good for science.

Some want to protect Darwinism from the competitive marketplace by overturning the critical-analysis standards. My hope is that these efforts will merely lead students to ask, What's the evidence they don't want us to see?

Under the new standards, they'll get an answer. For starters, many high-school biology textbooks have presented Haeckel's 19th century embryo drawings, the four-winged fruit fly, peppered moths hidden on tree trunks and the evolving beak of the Galapagos finch as knockdown evidence for Darwinian evolution. What they don't tell students is that these icons of evolution have been discredited, not by Christian fundamentalists but by mainstream evolutionists.

We now know that 1) Haeckel faked his embryo drawings; 2) Anatomically mutant fruit flies are always dysfunctional; 3) Peppered moths don't rest on tree trunks (the photographs were staged); and 4) the finch beaks returned to normal after the rains returned – no net evolution occurred. Like many species, the average size fluctuates within a given range.

This is microevolution, the age-old observation of change within species. Macroevolution refers to the evolution of fundamentally new body plans and anatomical parts. Biology textbooks use instances of microevolution such as the Galapagos finches to paper over the fact that biologists have never observed, or even described in theoretical terms, a detailed, continually functional pathway to fundamentally new forms like mammals, wings and bats. This is significant because modern Darwinism claims that all life evolved from a common ancestor by a series of tiny, useful genetic mutations.

Textbooks also trumpet a few "missing links" discovered between groups. What they don't mention is that Darwin's theory requires untold millions of missing links, evolving one tiny step at a time. Yes, the fossil record is incomplete, but even mainstream evolutionists have asked, why is it selectively incomplete in just those places where the need for evidence is most crucial?

Opponents of the new science standards don't want Kansas high-school students grappling with that question. They argue that such problems aren't worth bothering with because Darwinism is supported by "overwhelming evidence." But if the evidence is overwhelming, why shield the theory from informed critical analysis? Why the campaign to mischaracterize the current standards and replace them with a plan to spoon-feed students Darwinian pabulum strained of uncooperative evidence?

The truly confident Darwinist should be eager to tell students, "Hey, notice these crucial unsolved problems in modern evolutionary theory. Maybe one day you'll be one of the scientists who discovers a solution."

Confidence is as confidence does.


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To: thomaswest

May I ask what evidence is available to support your faith? Also, do you speak seriously or in jest? In regard to the latter I tend to think the latter, in which case your comments have little if anything to do with real life.


501 posted on 07/27/2006 9:29:08 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: wyattearp

I have read them and shown them to be fakes, just like Evolution. You can insult Christians but they can't give it back, what a baby! If you want to believe in a bunch of rocks that is your business.

BTW throwing garbage at a wall hoping something will stick only works in college, not the real world.

Pray for W and Our Troops
Shalom Israel


502 posted on 07/27/2006 9:29:35 PM PDT by bray (Jeb '08, just to watch their Heads Explode!)
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To: MHGinTN

Just throw the word and fake at google and you will get hundreds.

Pray for W and Our Troops
Shalom Israel


503 posted on 07/27/2006 9:30:35 PM PDT by bray (Jeb '08, just to watch their Heads Explode!)
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To: freedumb2003

Like those arrogant "physists" who try to discover


They don't believe God's Word. They want answers so they 'try' to discover.....and denounce THE CREATOR of all with all their 'theories'. The Almighty is an All Knowing and All Seeing God - a truth some can't grasp but it is STILL THE TRUTH.

The Bible is FINAL and COMPLETE...And NEVER CHANGING! You nor anyone else not believing that isn't going to change that fact - and that includes DeadDarwin.


504 posted on 07/27/2006 9:33:12 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: xzins
The uniqueness of the arm is philosophy???

Those musings certainly don't qualify as science...

505 posted on 07/27/2006 9:34:05 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: thomaswest

Just wanted to give an exact count, sanctified by being written down, passed down through tradition, and finally mistranslated by FitzGerald.


506 posted on 07/27/2006 9:38:48 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: P-Marlowe
Most of the evos on this forum ridicule the idea that God designed every single atom in the universe. They insist that at best God created Hydrogen and then went to sleep.

Please provide links to such assertions.

The God of the Bible created and designed everything even down to that hand that everyone on this thread wants to ridicule as being just an accident of nature.

No one said otherwise. The question at hand is the MECHANICS of that design. Those of us who believe in a Supreme God believe He created a rational Universe that followed rules He designed and instantiated. Those who need a more personal (and limited) God believe either that God put it together 6,000 years ago and created all the things we see within a few days OR, worse, He didn't have it all correct and needs to reach in and tweak it.

I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. (Psalms 139:14 KJV)

Made. Do you believe that? Are we fearfully and wonderfully made, or are we typically and naturally evolved?

A distinction without a difference. Evolving IS making.

507 posted on 07/27/2006 9:39:38 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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To: wyattearp
BTW, does your family have as many veterans/servicemen/servicewomen as mine does? If it does, or even if it doesn't, don't you think that what Fester wrote was downright offensive, and totally deserving of a "stuff it"?

BTW, my Father is buried at Arlington, I have served, I have many family members that have served our country.

I did not take offensive to Festers remarks because in thier context they were appropriate.

All the chistles I've dulled carving idols of stone That have crumbled like sand 'neath the waves. I've recklessly built all my dreams in the sand just to watch, them all wash away.

Through another day, another trial, another chance to reconcile To one who sees past all I see. And reaching out my weary hand I pray that you'd understand You're the only one who's faithful to me.

All the pennies I've wasted in my wishing well I have thrown like stones to the sea. I have cast my lots, dropped my guard, searched aimlessly for a faith To be faithful to me.

Through another day, another trial, another chance to reconcile To one who sees past all I see. And reaching out my weary hand I pray that you'd understand You're the only one who's faithful to me. You're the only one who's faithful to me.

Jennifer Knapp

My favorite Christian artist.
508 posted on 07/27/2006 9:40:46 PM PDT by be4everfree
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To: bray

Actually the Nazi Bible took all of the Jews out of it...

Duh...

as well as the cross which was replaced with a lance.

The swastika was/is a cross.

Hitler was a big follower of Eugenics and was attempting to make a Master Race through evolution.

First, eugenics is not evolution. And Hitler already thought the Aryans were a Master Race. He was trying to refine it and make sure it wasn't polluted and corrupted.

You don't really understand the TOE at all, do you?

509 posted on 07/27/2006 9:41:18 PM PDT by ml1954
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To: thomaswest
Must be time to curse the rain god, since prayer hasn't helped.

Or time to toss another virgin into the cenote to gain Tlaloc's favor. The lack of cenotes in the Panhandle may contribute to the drought.

510 posted on 07/27/2006 9:41:22 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: presently no screen name
Like those arrogant "physists" who try to discover

They don't believe God's Word. They want answers so they 'try' to discover.....and denounce THE CREATOR of all with all their 'theories'.

So, how is life in the year 1100?

511 posted on 07/27/2006 9:42:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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To: blowfish

The description of the arm is physiology.

The comments about its awesome uniqueness is at a minimum, wonder; but it might attain to philosophy, I guess, but I wouldn't think of it as such.

That it cannot be duplicated is simple fact.


512 posted on 07/27/2006 9:44:29 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: bray; CarolinaGuitarman
Where are those transitional fossils let alone the missing link.

You might enjoy reading The Fossil Record: Evolution or "Scientific Creation" by Clifford A. Cuffey. Section 5 contains a discussion of the reptile to mammal trasition. It is interesting that the website belongs to . These people use standard geology and biology to make lots of money prospecting for oil. If creationism were true, they'd use it instead.


513 posted on 07/27/2006 9:47:08 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: BrandtMichaels
Article says precisely what I'd like to know from all the evolutionists on these threads?

"You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! No truth-handler are you!

514 posted on 07/27/2006 9:47:14 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Never apologise. never explain)
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To: xzins
Re 419: Saved is superior to lost. It is given unto every man at least once to be enlightened by God. That is then an easy road to salvation.

You beg the question. "Saved" via your interpretation? Who knows how many people save themselves as non-believers. You offer only one prescription. Reality is that there are many paths. None lead to eternal bliss, because we are mortal.

"Enlightened by God"? You merely repeat the claim of every other church group seeking government support via tax benefits or using the government to promote faith-based views. There are so many claims to "know God's truth", and so many men getting rich on appeals to the faithful to promote 'faith agendas', and so many claims as to which god is true. And a lot of hypocrisy.

Since you were previously a Chaplin in the US Military, you swore an oath to uphold the Constitution. Your oath is to defend Art VI and the First Amendment. Your oath was not to defend the Bible.

515 posted on 07/27/2006 9:47:29 PM PDT by thomaswest (I just believe in one less god than you do. Or 2 less in the case of Trinitarians.)
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To: JHBowden
believed inerrancy of religious texts.

I don't know what religious texts you are implying. There is ONLY one book that is w/o error and that is God's Word, The Bible.

what seems to be at issue here is not evolution per se

It's all about deception and denoucing The Creator of All. For every truth, satan has a lie. That's how it's always been. Good vs. evil.
516 posted on 07/27/2006 9:47:51 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: freedumb2003
The eye evolved as did everything else.

And science god created heaven and earth! Talk about complete faith in science, don't ask just believe.

Did it evolve all at once with all its complexity or did it take millions of evolutions? This is the complete fraud of evolution. Unless it happened at once the animal would never survive so goodbye species.

Again, where is the fossil evidence of the transitional species?

Guess I just don't have enough faith to believe something with no proof, so I'll just believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. Pray for W and Our Troops

Shalom Isreal

517 posted on 07/27/2006 9:48:51 PM PDT by bray (Jeb '08, just to watch their Heads Explode!)
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To: presently no screen name

Which translation is most correct or are they all of equal correctness?


518 posted on 07/27/2006 9:49:26 PM PDT by RFC_Gal (There is no tagline)
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To: freedumb2003

You should know better than I. I surpassed you - I found The Truth while you are still looking, discovering, evolving.


519 posted on 07/27/2006 9:50:13 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Decoupling placemarker ...


520 posted on 07/27/2006 9:52:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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