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What are Darwinists so afraid of?
worldnetdaily.com ^ | 07/27/2006 | Jonathan Witt

Posted on 07/27/2006 3:00:03 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels

What are Darwinists so afraid of?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: July 27, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Jonathan Witt © 2006

As a doctoral student at the University of Kansas in the '90s, I found that my professors came in all stripes, and that lazy ideas didn't get off easy. If some professor wanted to preach the virtues of communism after it had failed miserably in the Soviet Union, he was free to do so, but students were also free to hear from other professors who critically analyzed that position.

Conversely, students who believed capitalism and democracy were the great engines of human progress had to grapple with the best arguments against that view, meaning that in the end, they were better able to defend their beliefs.

Such a free marketplace of ideas is crucial to a solid education, and it's what the current Kansas science standards promote. These standards, like those adopted in other states and supported by a three-to-one margin among U.S. voters, don't call for teaching intelligent design. They call for schools to equip students to critically analyze modern evolutionary theory by teaching the evidence both for and against it.

The standards are good for students and good for science.

Some want to protect Darwinism from the competitive marketplace by overturning the critical-analysis standards. My hope is that these efforts will merely lead students to ask, What's the evidence they don't want us to see?

Under the new standards, they'll get an answer. For starters, many high-school biology textbooks have presented Haeckel's 19th century embryo drawings, the four-winged fruit fly, peppered moths hidden on tree trunks and the evolving beak of the Galapagos finch as knockdown evidence for Darwinian evolution. What they don't tell students is that these icons of evolution have been discredited, not by Christian fundamentalists but by mainstream evolutionists.

We now know that 1) Haeckel faked his embryo drawings; 2) Anatomically mutant fruit flies are always dysfunctional; 3) Peppered moths don't rest on tree trunks (the photographs were staged); and 4) the finch beaks returned to normal after the rains returned – no net evolution occurred. Like many species, the average size fluctuates within a given range.

This is microevolution, the age-old observation of change within species. Macroevolution refers to the evolution of fundamentally new body plans and anatomical parts. Biology textbooks use instances of microevolution such as the Galapagos finches to paper over the fact that biologists have never observed, or even described in theoretical terms, a detailed, continually functional pathway to fundamentally new forms like mammals, wings and bats. This is significant because modern Darwinism claims that all life evolved from a common ancestor by a series of tiny, useful genetic mutations.

Textbooks also trumpet a few "missing links" discovered between groups. What they don't mention is that Darwin's theory requires untold millions of missing links, evolving one tiny step at a time. Yes, the fossil record is incomplete, but even mainstream evolutionists have asked, why is it selectively incomplete in just those places where the need for evidence is most crucial?

Opponents of the new science standards don't want Kansas high-school students grappling with that question. They argue that such problems aren't worth bothering with because Darwinism is supported by "overwhelming evidence." But if the evidence is overwhelming, why shield the theory from informed critical analysis? Why the campaign to mischaracterize the current standards and replace them with a plan to spoon-feed students Darwinian pabulum strained of uncooperative evidence?

The truly confident Darwinist should be eager to tell students, "Hey, notice these crucial unsolved problems in modern evolutionary theory. Maybe one day you'll be one of the scientists who discovers a solution."

Confidence is as confidence does.


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To: wyattearp

I studied German for several years, thanks. I know what the slogan means. The word "god" is not exclusively Christian, of course. I already pointed out that there is a conspicuous absence of any Christian symbols on the belt, such as a cross. Instead, there is the pagan nationalist symbol of the Nazi Party, which, as I have already documented earlier, actively opposed Christianity and planned its demise in Europe.
I also gave a clear explanation of how leftists play propaganda games with religious people. Like Bill Clinton attending his liberal church, or John Kerry his heretic Catholic sect. It's a ruse. Most Germans came from a background of belief, and the Nazis exploited that as a motivation.


1,021 posted on 07/28/2006 5:22:12 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Ignatz
...oops! I mean I'd better get busy with those 29 steps to Changing My Religion!

There is no need to change religions; one need only shift paradigms. I'm quite comfortable believing in God and accepting the validity of evolution.

1,022 posted on 07/28/2006 5:22:22 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: bray
Comparing Darwin to Gravity is a ridiculous comparison. Everyone knows gravity exists, while many people with any curiosity at all questions evolution.

From a description of the book, Gravity's Arc: The Story of Gravity, from Aristotle to Einstein and Beyond, by David Darling. In Science News, July 8, 2006, p. 31.

Gravity determines the shapes of our bodies, how objects move through space, and the structure of the universe. However, scientists don't really know what gravity is or how it's created. ... much about gravity remains unexplained...

1,023 posted on 07/28/2006 5:22:48 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: andysandmikesmom
I was accused earlier in this thread of making up about two days of creation yet when I posted exactly what my King James said I got absolutely NO response from anyone about making up what is Written.

Now I even said that DNA you know that scientific measurement of identifying people and probable relationships was proof that NOT alll peoples upon this earth this day could have possibly come from two people. NOBODY pointed out that I was wrong.

Now I don't know what you are complaining about if this Arnold Murray "presents a chapter by chapter, verse by verse presentation of the Bible" you surely can see if he is adding or taking away from what is Written. Perhaps if you find him in error then you can take it up with him.

The Darwinists have showed their primary colors on this thread with the attempt to intimidate Christians, trying to put a Christian dress on the likes of Hitler and his evil lunatic insanity.

Further this thread has demonstrated by some posters that they know full well that if Christ is found in Genesis their fantasy fall apart.
1,024 posted on 07/28/2006 5:23:15 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: wyattearp

Well, at a glance, the introduction of a supreme being is not essential to the process of intelligent design. Is it? I mean, you've undoubtedly created things using intelligent design. How does it work?


1,025 posted on 07/28/2006 5:25:00 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I mean, you've undoubtedly created things using intelligent design. How does it work?

With just a thought? I most certainly have not!

1,026 posted on 07/28/2006 5:26:21 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: RFC_Gal

Jump off a bridge and find out. How does evolution work?

Pray for W and Our Troops
Shalom Israel


1,027 posted on 07/28/2006 5:30:24 PM PDT by bray (Jeb '08, just to watch their Heads Explode!)
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To: Just mythoughts

I am not complaining, and dont know where you got that from...what I am asking is if you support Arnold Murrays teachings and could you point me to the place in the Bible, where he finds some of the things he talks about...

I have heard him talk about the 8th day of creation, wherein the 2nd Adam was created...and on the 6th day of creation, he has talked about all the different races of human beings being created...I have heard him talk about Noah taking two of each race of people on board the ark...I have heard him talk about the rapture being a whisking away of deceived people being taken away by the Devil...

I am asking where in the Bible, specifically do you or he say that these ideas are indicated...these beliefs are contrary to traditional Christian religions, and I have never heard them spoken about, except by Arnold Murray, as I have only recently begun to watch his programs...since these views are contrary to traditional Christian religions, I am just curious where this information comes from...

I am not complaining, I am not saying he or you are right or wrong...what I am asking for, is where, exactly in the Bible, does one find this information...


1,028 posted on 07/28/2006 5:31:08 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: bray

Ok - I just jumped off a bridge. Didn't help me figure out how gravity works.

Do you have any other helpful suggestions that will answer my question?


1,029 posted on 07/28/2006 5:31:40 PM PDT by RFC_Gal (There is no tagline)
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To: hellbender

Hitler was in a new age cult in Vienna during his formative years where he fell into the mysticism of the day. His attempt to breed a god race was a mix between evolution and mysticism.

Pray for W and Our Troops
Shalom Israel


1,030 posted on 07/28/2006 5:33:42 PM PDT by bray (Jeb '08, just to watch their Heads Explode!)
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To: RFC_Gal

I will use the 'sun' as the moon is just not reliable to assert a theory.

Based upon the very short span of time I have been on this earth tells me that I have every reason to believe without evidence that sun will show up in the morning. Now at this time of year it does have a more north eastern appearance than say in 5 months.


1,031 posted on 07/28/2006 5:34:07 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: RFC_Gal

This thread is not about gravity it is about evolution. It only proves that you have to have faith to believe in something you can't see, touch or prove just like gravity. Try to stay on topic....Women!

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters
Shalom Israel


1,032 posted on 07/28/2006 5:35:28 PM PDT by bray (Jeb '08, just to watch their Heads Explode!)
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To: Just mythoughts

About the DNA thing..if we grant, that it is impossible for all the people on earth today to have received their DNA from just two people, that is one thing...and most who support evolution would grant that, but not based on anything from the Bible...its based on their scientific understandings of how DNA is passed along...

You on the other hand, seem to be saying, it is in the Bible, that all the people on earth today, come from not just two people but from many people...I am asking, for the exact chapter and verse from the Bible, which shows that God created many different humans of all the different races on the 6th day of creation...


1,033 posted on 07/28/2006 5:37:36 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: RFC_Gal
How does gravity work?

Very well.

1,034 posted on 07/28/2006 5:37:59 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Is tractus pro pensio.)
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To: andysandmikesmom
Well sounds like he is reading Genesis as my King James says there was flesh men and women created on the 6th day and the 7th day was for rest.

Then in Chapter 2:5 there is that statement that there was NOT a man to till the ground, and then The Adam was formed and the breath of life which means the 'soul' (check it out if you don't believe me) was breathed into his nostrils which made the flesh alive.

Now you tell me what is at the base of Darwinists claim that some are more fit for survival? Cause Darwin sure made it plain who he was talking about.
1,035 posted on 07/28/2006 5:38:30 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: BrandtMichaels
Unless or until the next evolution fraud comes to light anyways...

Oral (Gimmie 8 millon dollars or God will kill me) Roberts

Wyatt Archaeological Research (These guys claim to have found Noah's Ark, Sodom & Gomorrah, The Ark of the The Covenant and more!!)

The Inca Stones

Acambaro dinosaurs

Perjury at Dover

Darwin's deathbed confession

NASA finds the missing day of Joshua

Apostolic Canons

Greater Ministries Scandal

Health Ministry / Biblical medical plan

So by your logic, if Evolution is wrong because of a few frauds then Christianity is even more wrong because it has a lot more. At least with the frauds in evolution, once they are discovered they are discarded forever, meanwhile those Christian frauds even though they have been exposed many Christians still continue to espouse them to this day.

1,036 posted on 07/28/2006 5:39:18 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: RFC_Gal

Suddenly.


1,037 posted on 07/28/2006 5:39:29 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: bray

So you don't know and you are now trying to cover up that fact with insults how sadly typical of such discussions.


1,038 posted on 07/28/2006 5:39:43 PM PDT by RFC_Gal (There is no tagline)
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To: Gumlegs

Tell my how "God with us" is Christian doctrine. It could belong to any religion. See my other posts, which demolish the idea that this is necessarily an authentically Christian artifact. The Nazis were masters of propaganda, of playing on people's emotions and feelings. They knew most Germans came from a theistic culture, so they invoked God on behalf of a pagan cause. Certainly you're smart enough to grasp that? Or do you also really believe that Bill Clinton and John Kerry are committed Christians because they go through the motions of attending churches? Leftists are habitual liars. It's what they do for a living, so they're good at it.
The fact that the quote from Hitler may have come through Rauschinger doesn't invalidate what I said about Hitler being basically anti-Christian. Rauschinger is a controversial figure, probably because the Left tried mightily to discredit him, as they do anyone who points out the obvious: that National Socialism was a revolutionary movement of the Left.


1,039 posted on 07/28/2006 5:41:29 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: RFC_Gal

Gravity (in part) is what holds the moon up.


1,040 posted on 07/28/2006 5:41:42 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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