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[I had no idea that a belief in evolution was incompatible with conservatism and a belief in God.]

It isnt. PERIOD

A great many of your anti-evolution buddies disagree with you on that one, very stridently. Why have I never seen you take issue with them when they say that? I'll be sure to tell them to take it up with you the next several hundred times they make that claim.

But it's... interesting that you would say this after you called someone espousing the compatibility of those beliefs "blasphemous" in this post...

But some on Fr will try and label you a victim of creationists anyways.

No need for any of us to "try and label" anything, the rabid "evolution is incompatible with Christianity/God/the Bible" folks do that all on their own:

Evolution and Christianity do not mix, like oil and water.

75 posted on 08/22/2005 8:53:36 AM CDT by Just mythoughts

But anyone who professes to be a Christian and a follower of Darwinism is affected by doublethink, or the concept of holding two contradictory ideas in one's mind and accepting both of them at the same time.

869 posted on 12/17/2005 11:36:55 PM CST by Baraonda

By calling into question that God did not create man in His own image (and don't give me the business that EvoThink and JudeoChristianity can live alongside one another -- they can't) -- [...]

100 posted on 04/01/2006 1:37:27 AM CST by Californiajones

Creationists are those who believe in God.
Evolutionists are those who don't.
The fence straddlers don't know what to believe, so they attempt to bridge the gap between two mutually exclusive theories.

227 posted on 12/28/2004 1:31:34 AM CST by Safrguns

You will never convince a Bible believing Christian that man is evolved from apes. A Christian will never convince an evolutionist that man is created by God without using the Bible.

297 posted on 03/09/2005 1:20:54 PM CST by taxesareforever

No person who has experienced the holy spirit has ever believed in the lie of evolution. Those who have not think that they can fake it, but they fake only themselves.

307 posted on 12/28/2005 10:47:40 PM CST by editor-surveyor

Again, you can't have it both ways. Those that claim belief are only fooling themselves if they also claim to believe in the religion of evolution. Either you believe what God states or you believe what the godless state.
I don't suppose I will get through to you. Being spiritually discerned is a burden ... that is taken on by choice.

113 posted on 03/10/2006 2:59:49 PM CST by nmh

Do let us know when you contact these folks to let them know they're wrong about evolution and God being incompatible, won't you?

Do let us know when you contact these folks to let them know they're wrong about evolution and God being incompatible, won't you?

Consider it done!!!

Most Christians 'believe' Evolution because they do NOT know what their Bible says.

If, as they say, they 'believe' the words of Jesus and the New Testament writers,

they have to decide what the following verses mean:

Acts 17:26-27

26. From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live.
27. God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us.

Romans 5:12-21
12. Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned--
13. for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law.
14. Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
15. But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
16. Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.
17. For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
18. Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.
19. For just as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
20. The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,
21. so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

If there were no one man, that means SIN did NOT enter the World thru him.

If Adam was NOT the one man, that means SPIRITUAL DEATH did not come thru him.

If SIN did NOT enter the World thru the one man, that means Jesus does not save from SIN.

Are we to believe that the one man is symbolic? Does that mean Jesus is symbolic as well?

The Theory of Evolution states that there WAS no one man, but a wide population that managed to inherit that last mutated gene that makes MEN different from APES.

Acts 17:24-26

24. "The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands.
25. And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else.
26. From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live.

Was LUKE wrong about this?

1 Corinthians 11:8-9
8. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man;
9. neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.

1 Timothy 2:13

For Adam was formed first, then Eve.

Was Paul WRONG about these???

If so, is your GOD so puny that He allows this 'inaccuracy' in His Word??

Oh but to be pinged when quoted by name or spoken of, but rules apply only to some.

According to Genesis, which describes Christ as the 'tree of life' already existing in the Garden of God, called Eden. Christ is referenced again as the one to have His heel bruised, and Eve called the mother of all living as Christ was to come through her in the flesh.

The Garden of God, Eden is referenced in Ezekiel 28:13 describing that pretender, the 'tree of the knowledge of good and evil' also called the serpent a term of degradation that Paul says in IICorinthians 11:3 "beguiled" (the Greek word used has a specific meaning) Eve.

Maybe this evolution debate will drive Christians to do some spiritual digging into what the original Hebrew contains about creation, exactly who was created, and that life began when that breath of life "soul" was placed into the nostrils of man in flesh.

Now why would not the 'gods of the knowledge' of evolution, not show the Christians what exactly the first six chapters of Genesis actually says in that original Hebrew??????????

FYI:

People are different, Christians are different.

I dont claim some authority over other Christians and what they want to believe. Its between them and the Lord. Just like it is with you.

My fellow Freepers on the ping list I maintain know exactly where I stand on these subjects. Its not to tough...I spell it out on my profile.

And its not my calling to bring everyone in Freeper land into the creation camp.

It is my calling to share the Good News of Christ. His life and death and what that means for you.

You see, I dont care what my fellow Christians believe about evo/creation/ID... its certainly an interesting hobby/discussion/chance to learn more about your world and how God made it but the final decision on what to believe is their own choice.

WHAT DOES MATTER: is whether you believe youre a sinner and Christ has interceded on your behalf to pay for the judgement you deserve.

We both woke up today to another great day the Lord has provided. Looks like he's given us at least one more day to learn about him.

That means there is no better time for you to learn of his love he has for you then Today.