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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4
Link to previous Natalee Holloway Thread ^ | 6/30/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/30/2005 8:31:27 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Posted on 06/23/2005 12:44:51 PM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429067/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Ariel/Satellite Map of Aruba
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=12.564583,-70.035954&spn=0.089264,0.123081&z=4&t=k&hl=en

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

Online TV Show Links


Shortcuts...

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty  (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network


Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: the Deejay
Trap looked a bit testy yesterday......

Wasn't his cool/calm self.

This thing is about to pop wide open.

1,901 posted on 07/04/2005 3:16:57 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Canadian Outrage

Thank you ! I wish I was at your house, it is too hot to breathe here.


1,902 posted on 07/04/2005 3:18:12 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: TexKat

LOL! That, too.

I think this case has given him cause,
to be high, b/c I think he's unofficially
in charge to get this case out of Aruba!


1,903 posted on 07/04/2005 3:18:59 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Ditter

"too hot to breathe here..."

Where are you?


1,904 posted on 07/04/2005 3:20:19 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Ditter; Canadian Outrage

It's way too hot here, too.

And if I hear one more firecracker,
I may be off to Canada to visit my
cousin.


1,905 posted on 07/04/2005 3:20:44 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: txrangerette

Houston Texas. It is 100 in my back yard right now. The birds are sitting with their tongues out.


1,906 posted on 07/04/2005 3:25:46 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: af_vet_1981

I AGREE ABOUT THIS JUDGE from CURACAO!! He's as dirty and corrupt as possible. This case has done nothing but go SOUTH ever since this guy was called in. He's DIRTY, DIRTY, DIRTY!!!! Paul VDS should have NEVER been released. He started destroying the case when he released HIM. I do think that it is possible the Kalpoe brothers got dragged into this by JVDS and his corrupt evil father. In my mind I would love to see the Twitty's leave and then the American Jets come in and bomb the place off the map!! (Just wishful thinking I know)!! Somehow tho, AN EXAMPLE MUST be made of Aruba by this case. It needs to be EXPOSED to the whole world for what it really is - a corrupt cesspool.


1,907 posted on 07/04/2005 3:27:14 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Dark Skies
From SM:

Zazzu wrote:

.....and then to continue the Aruban reporter asks again....."Why are the Chaperones not talking"......and "what is this big surprise news that the Twittys are going to reveal in their interview?"...."we are awaiting this news" sounds a bit like a challenge.....or am I wrong?

Response from a poster from Alabama:

I'm going to tell you why they are afraid they are going to get sued in civil court thier lawyer have told them to shut up

1,908 posted on 07/04/2005 3:28:27 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: the Deejay

DJ - The Prosecution can also APPEAL this decision!!


1,909 posted on 07/04/2005 3:29:46 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: kcvl

Can't understand much of what they're saying on Top95.1 but sure do like the music they're playing.


1,910 posted on 07/04/2005 3:30:43 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Canadian Outrage
Told hubby since the first week, this thing's done gone South. Suggested a few days ago, the US should call ALL Americans home, & we should lob a few missles down there.....BETCHA THAT WOULD GET THEIR ATTENTION IN A HURRY!
1,911 posted on 07/04/2005 3:31:10 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Ditter

You poor thing. I am in Abilene and we are at 100 degrees, too. But the western part is no where near as bad as the sweltering steambath of Houston. My sympathies.


1,912 posted on 07/04/2005 3:32:48 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Canadian Outrage
I know, but it appears the prosecution is only holding on by the skin of their teeth. Carin Janssen's interview last week, she didn't appear too confident. I think joran remaining in jail after today's decision, was just sheer luck for CJ.
1,913 posted on 07/04/2005 3:33:32 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: txrangerette

Thermometer on my shaded patio
is between 115 - 117 degrees,
here in Las Vegas.


1,914 posted on 07/04/2005 3:35:25 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: All
From a MB Alabama poster at SM:

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:59 pm Post subject:

Since it's kind of sad to be on this board right now w/ everything that's being said in here, I think it might be a good time for me to run over to the Wall of Hope for Natalee and say a special prayer, not only for Natalee, but her parents and stepparents as well.

Also, I KNOW that if any additional resources and/or help is needed by the family, none of you will have to worry about it. While there have been many, many generous contributions from across the country and the kind man in Aruba who gave money to Equusearch, we take care of our own. If Beth needs a house in Aruba, there is no doubt in my mind one will be provided for them.

I wish you all were so lucky as to live in a community such as this and know that if you were ever in a situation as horrible as the Holloway/Twittys, you would have people helping you as well.

1,915 posted on 07/04/2005 3:37:29 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: the Deejay

hehehe...but it's a dry heat....
not that it matters much.

hot is hot!


1,916 posted on 07/04/2005 3:37:34 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: the Deejay

It's a cool 103 here in south texas.


1,917 posted on 07/04/2005 3:38:53 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Canadian Outrage

PVDS said that he was merely giving the boys legal advice when he told them "No body, no crime," but what I find so interesting is that the meeting at which he told the boys this was in the early afternoon on the day which at noon the trip companions finally realized Natalee was missing. Am I right?


1,918 posted on 07/04/2005 3:41:37 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: dc-zoo

Our hottest temps are yet to come.
We will get into the 120's before
summer's over.

When it's that hot, rubbersoled
shoes begin to melt on the
sidewalks.

We used to chuckle at the shoes
on the tourists making their way
from casino to casino.


1,919 posted on 07/04/2005 3:42:18 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: TexKat
I'm going to tell you why they are afraid they are going to get sued in civil court thier lawyer have told them to shut up.

The Twitty's should take that off the table by indemnifying the chaperones...they weren't actually chaperones anyway.

1,920 posted on 07/04/2005 3:43:36 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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