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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4
Link to previous Natalee Holloway Thread ^ | 6/30/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/30/2005 8:31:27 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Posted on 06/23/2005 12:44:51 PM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429067/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Ariel/Satellite Map of Aruba
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=12.564583,-70.035954&spn=0.089264,0.123081&z=4&t=k&hl=en

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

Online TV Show Links


Shortcuts...

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty  (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network


Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: Jrabbit
And Joran gets to have an attorney now during all interrogations

Thats what was said prior to yesterday also, but Joran, nor the Kalpoes were accompanied by an attorney yesterday or today.

1,681 posted on 07/04/2005 12:07:23 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Have Joran's mother and/or father been heard from lately?


1,682 posted on 07/04/2005 12:08:24 PM PDT by Carolinamom (NC motto: to be rather than to seem)
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To: TexKat

I think that someone, somewhere will be keeping an eye on Sloot and watching his every move when he gets out. Even if/when he leaves Aruba. I think an unfortunate accident will befall him.


1,683 posted on 07/04/2005 12:09:04 PM PDT by Rippersnapper
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To: the Deejay

Yep. All he has to do is keep claiming that he left her on the beach....SODDI

I guess the e-mails and text messages between Joran and Deepak were nothing incriminating. Or was it messages between Joran and his almost judge daddy?


1,684 posted on 07/04/2005 12:09:24 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: spectre
I wish Beth would come back to the States, and go on Larry King, Fox, Oprah, Good morning America...etc., to tell her story.

She has been on all of them you mentioned except Oprah. I know she doesn't want to leave her daughter in that hell hole. If they could find Natalee they would be gone immediately never to return.

1,685 posted on 07/04/2005 12:09:35 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Carolinamom
Have Joran's mother and/or father been heard from lately?

I do not believe that I have heard any word of them today.

1,686 posted on 07/04/2005 12:10:07 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Jrabbit
I guess the e-mails and text messages between Joran and Deepak were nothing incriminating.
1,687 posted on 07/04/2005 12:11:03 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: TexKat

I think the Fox reporter ruled today that from now on, he will have an attorney present.


1,688 posted on 07/04/2005 12:11:42 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: the Deejay
Yep, the Aruban fix is in and Joran will go free in 60 days. The Happy Island, Murder's Row, is an evil corrupt place, and the Dutch justice system that works is a myth. The kid had a big smirk on his face while leaving. joran is a depraved monster.
1,689 posted on 07/04/2005 12:14:17 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: af_vet_1981

This story is too hot right now. I believe that they kept Joran to try to wear down the family so that they might leave or at least the story will die down. Also to keep them from spilling whatever beans they have at this point. I feel like the plan is to let him go after 60 days - end of story.


1,690 posted on 07/04/2005 12:15:52 PM PDT by kcat
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To: Jrabbit

See my 1662 post?


1,691 posted on 07/04/2005 12:16:11 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: xsmommy

Twitty must have great control...I would have spilled the beans already, unless doing so would endanger my daughter's life.

This is a strange case and as so many here are aware, reaches deep into Aruba.


1,692 posted on 07/04/2005 12:17:15 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: the Deejay
The moment they arrested the black security guards, the jig was up, Joran is lawyered up as off the judged orders today, he will continue to say what is daddy told him to, "if there is no body, there is no crime".

Bastards.

Holloways should file a lawsuit, keep this government, prosecution, and police in court for years, and destroy there reputations.

Leave Aruba, and trash that country's authorities everyday for the rest of their lives.
1,693 posted on 07/04/2005 12:17:33 PM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
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To: kcvl
From SM:

7 arested : ..1 left. what a DEAL

1,694 posted on 07/04/2005 12:17:43 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: GarySpFc

I'm not 100% sure they still
have joran in jail.

It really doesn't look like him.
A double perhaps?

See my 1662 post.


1,695 posted on 07/04/2005 12:19:06 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: kcat
This story is too hot right now. I believe that they kept Joran to try to wear down the family so that they might leave or at least the story will die down. Also to keep them from spilling whatever beans they have at this point. I feel like the plan is to let him go after 60 days - end of story.

Evil triumphs when liberals and criminals control the criminal justice industry. That is what you are seeing here. Aruban LE is not all evil or complicit, they are just outnumbered by those who are.

1,696 posted on 07/04/2005 12:20:30 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: roses of sharon

The security guards couldn't pan out,
and ruined everything for joran
and the kalpoe brothers.


1,697 posted on 07/04/2005 12:20:50 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: the Deejay

If Jorans attorney appealls this decision than the proscution has to produce all the evidence they have....is that right?


1,698 posted on 07/04/2005 12:21:49 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: the Deejay

Any screen shots of before today and today of Joran that we could compare/contrast? He did look much broader in the shoulders and chest than earlier imo....plus different hair and shades today.


1,699 posted on 07/04/2005 12:22:45 PM PDT by Carolinamom (NC motto: to be rather than to seem)
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To: roses of sharon
Leave Aruba, and trash that country's authorities everyday for the rest of their lives.

Jug said (basically,) when they get back to homeground, that's what they are going to do.

1,700 posted on 07/04/2005 12:22:56 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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