Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: demkicker

Who is this bastard, Edmond Croes?

local disc jockey(Edmond Croes) from top fm 95 in Aruba

1,881 posted on 07/04/2005 2:57:11 PM PDT by kcvl

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To: TexKat

Thank's for the pings.

1,882 posted on 07/04/2005 2:57:42 PM PDT by fatima (Make a move and the Bunny gets it.-Guess what movie)

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To: spectre

I HOPE if Joran gets off, he follows thru with his plans to go to College in the US. He won't find this place as friendly as that cesspool, Aruba.

And IF he does dare come to school in the U.S., I hope Beth files a civil suit on the b@stard.

1,883 posted on 07/04/2005 2:57:57 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: Ditter

"One difference is Beth is not able to say goodbye"

Ditter, only someone who lost a Teenager such as yourself, could say that in the compassionate way it was meant to be.

I realize it's going to be the hardest thing she ever does, leaving Natalee behind to go home. We do need to pray for this dear lady.

1,884 posted on 07/04/2005 2:58:52 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: TexKat; spectre

Isn't top 95.1 the sattion steve croes cousin runs? Or was it a rumor? I'd read on a couple of the other sites today, people saying top 95 was saying Jug should be questioned about Natalee instead of the boys.

1,885 posted on 07/04/2005 2:59:10 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: the Deejay

Is the corruption that pervasive? Or, is it just on this case?

Is there a chance that the prosecutors have a smoking gun we dont know about, or is this just a charade to letting everything slide?

1,886 posted on 07/04/2005 2:59:42 PM PDT by Voir Dire (I'm seeing and saying.)

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To: TexKat

I found that station online but it
does not offer an English option,
they were speaking a dialect of
Spanish.

1,887 posted on 07/04/2005 3:00:49 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: demkicker

From SM:

Hey AG, what's the word amongst the people in Aruba. Listening to Top 95, I can't understand alot. But I believe I understand the announcer is asking "what are you hiding?" Any ideas who he's referring to?

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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edmond Croes is inviting mister Twitty to come with his so called facts that he treathen to tell if any of the 3 suspects were released. According to Edmond Croes at Top 95 they had it with the gross way how the stephfather is talking about Aruba ?? Well well... Teo Live from Top 95 at www.arubadag.com

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FYI, if I was the Twits Spin Meister, from what I hear its time to sent Jug back to Alabama, or let Beth do all the talking...

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arubagirl wrote:

But...but...Jug isn't going to leave us hanging like that, right? Dude, come one, tell all!

1,888 posted on 07/04/2005 3:01:50 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: the Deejay

BETH IS RIGHT !!

1,889 posted on 07/04/2005 3:03:25 PM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)

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To: spectre; TexKat; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; USF

The Twitty's should tell him that they will make their comments to the American Media, when they get back home...on friendly soil.

I think they will speak to U.S. media, but from Aruba where it might loosen some lips. They've got plenty of protection (and that's just Beth...not a smart thing to threaten a Southerner, particularly a Southern woman). I think this island has picked the wrong fight.

I am waiting for the day when the smirk is wiped off Jurine's face.

1,890 posted on 07/04/2005 3:03:28 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: monkeywrench

Jug should be questioned instead of the boys? Oh my god...how low can they go? Filthy minded people!

1,891 posted on 07/04/2005 3:05:15 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: the Deejay

From SM:

They're going to run a clip by O'Reilly.

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Does not sound like Top cares to much for Bill O' Rielly either.

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playing bill o'reilly on top 95

1,892 posted on 07/04/2005 3:06:00 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: spectre

To me the hardest part of losing a child this way is "unknown". Is she alive and if so what is she enduring? Being the parent of a kidnapped,abducted or missing child must be the worst kind of torture.I would, for sure, be in a padded room.
We have friends who have lost 2 teenagers to two separate, tragic accidents and every time I see the Mom I can't imagine how she goes about her day to day life.

1,893 posted on 07/04/2005 3:06:25 PM PDT by surrey

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To: TexKat

But...but...Is that all they do, party
and take pictures!?
Looks like it to me.

lawdy!

1,894 posted on 07/04/2005 3:11:27 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: TexKat

From SM:

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: Chaparone not talking. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

O'Reilly:

Chaparone are scared to talk.

FBI says that they did not tell that they cannot talk, Bill O said it Bull.

When all this if over..the family has requested...there is not reason, the focus is to protect the children...Bill O is like a Mad Aruban, Wow, I can't believe my ears.. ______________________________________________________

TOP 95 said their job is to 'calm Arubans'.

Yeah, SURE.

1,895 posted on 07/04/2005 3:11:56 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Howlin

HAPPY 4TH OF JULY MY AMERICAN FRIENDS!!!!

1,896 posted on 07/04/2005 3:13:38 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: TexKat

Trap looked a bit testy yesterday......

Wasn't his cool/calm self.

1,897 posted on 07/04/2005 3:14:34 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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From SM:

Yes, in fact they are repeating the interview AGAIN...AGAIN..... then the Aruban reporter was saying something along the lines of "OK, then Mr. Twitty.....you are the ones who told the chaperones NOT TO TALK....so why is this not being reported by the American Press"......

1,898 posted on 07/04/2005 3:15:17 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Canadian Outrage

THANK YOU, CANADIAN OUTRAGE!!

1,899 posted on 07/04/2005 3:16:00 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: the Deejay

Trap looked a bit testy yesterday...... Wasn't his cool/calm self.

I thought he looked a little high myself.

1,900 posted on 07/04/2005 3:16:23 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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