Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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To: monkeywrench; All

Oh they have awaken the sleeping giant yall

comment from Riehl World:

I was ready to stick to my theory, but am ready to 'branch out' after I just saw those damn arrogant bastard Dutch/Arubans on Fox!!

I say boycot the stupid little island of Venezuela...it looks like a Dominican peehole and I will not go there for any reason--tourism be damned!

Godspeed to the Texans,.....I am writing this from Texas and I am a native of Alabama, BTW-God Bless Natalee Holloway!

My only hope is they don't release the guilty little island murderers on Monday---I am going to contribute to Tim Miller and Equusearch.

If I was wealthy, I would be down there tomorrow searching to do the job that the little pixie-ass Arubans and Dutch cannot do because they are not man ejough to handle it.

I would also do some 'field trips' to Curacao and to the mainland. Why don't they take their balls out of their pockets (if they have any) and fly the F-16s over to the drug cartels for a practice run or two....

Good night and I hope this e-mail does not burn out any servers on its way to you people.

Lone War Eagle

1,221 posted on 07/02/2005 6:11:50 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

'Mess with one of us, you mess with all of us.'

I don't understand what our State Dept. and DEA are doing. We need more busts!

1,222 posted on 07/02/2005 6:14:47 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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From Riehl World:

Jug reiterrated that he believes if they let those 3 boys go, they are making a huge mistake since "they" have the information he also has about these boys, what they are capable of.

Tim Miller, was beaten down, tired and pissed off. He said: " I have never seen the uniform of a marine". But we don't care, we are here to get Natalee. We don't communicate with "them" anymore. We only communicate with Natalee's mom and we will comb every square inch of Aruba and the ocean that surrounds it, until we get Natalee. We won't leave without her.

Posted by: CancunGirl | July 2, 2005 09:04 PM

1,223 posted on 07/02/2005 6:15:31 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

Evil hates the light. Aruba, til now, has been viewed through the prism of public relations and advertising. Aruba painted the picture...no light. Dat's over. Now we see it for what it is.

I hope the heat turns up so high that Nat is coughed up (or at least the truth about her is revealed).

If Nat has been murdered, at least her death means something...if it results in putting the light on this dirty little island.

God be with you, Nat.

1,224 posted on 07/02/2005 6:16:04 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: monkeywrench

I don't understand what our State Dept. and DEA are doing. We need more busts!

Big time.

1,225 posted on 07/02/2005 6:16:20 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

Lobbing a few missles over there, might get their attention.. what'dya'll think?

1,226 posted on 07/02/2005 6:19:49 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: TexKat

This was also posted over there,

"He doesn't know what the Dutch Marines uniforms look like because they tell him to have his crew at a certain place to meet them and then they go elsewhere and try to waste all of Tim's team's time. How sick is that??"

This is like the stone throwing in the water while they're searching incident. Outrageous!

1,227 posted on 07/02/2005 6:28:31 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: Dark Skies

I'll never catch up.

1,228 posted on 07/02/2005 6:31:42 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)

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To: TexKat

Nat's dad said the other night,
unless something happens
Saturday (today), he's going
home to his 7 yr. old for a
few days, b/c he promised her.

But he would go back some time
next week.

I'll bet if the Twittys or Holloways
go back to the states....the Aruban
government will withdraw their visas
and not allow them back in the country,
IF...What I read earlier is true...they
want them out of there....and off the
island.

1,229 posted on 07/02/2005 6:33:42 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: the Deejay

It would be telling if the family refuses to leave unless they are physically thrown out. Very telling...put that in your pipe and smoke it, Aruba...

1,230 posted on 07/02/2005 6:38:06 PM PDT by txrangerette

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To: txrangerette

One has to think like them.

All they have to say is, "You are causing Aruba too much trouble. You have to leave." Pull their visas, and they can make them leave.

Aruba holds the full deck of cards & they know it.

1,231 posted on 07/02/2005 6:42:51 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: the Deejay

I didn't say they could not make them leave. I said, interesting if the family would decide to sit right where they are in Natalee's room at the HI, and the Arubans would have to send the law to physically throw them out. In other words, arrest them to physically make them leave, instead of the family cooperating with them. Like the Civil Rights demonstrations long ago...like that. Rosa Parks refused to go to the back of the bus, and they arrested her. That was a very telling incident. The law said she had to give up her seat to a healthy young man, because he was white and she was black. What a picture THAT presented.

1,232 posted on 07/02/2005 6:48:28 PM PDT by txrangerette

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To: TexKat

The beligerance of the Aruban government spokeman was outrageous. He stated that Aruban police would not be allowed in the US to conduct an investigation. In other words we are not going to allow the FBI to help with our investigation.

1,233 posted on 07/02/2005 6:52:33 PM PDT by doc

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To: the Deejay

What I read earlier is true...they want them out of there....and off the island.

You know that the powers that be in Aruba want the Holloway and Twittys gone. The Holloway and Twittys are destroying their happy little island image.

1,234 posted on 07/02/2005 6:54:46 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: the Deejay

They DON'T hold the full deck of cards. Our govt. has DEA and CIA over there, and I'm sure they have plenty of dirt. We could put a hurt on their underground economy big time. I'm hoping we do.

1,235 posted on 07/02/2005 6:55:30 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: doc

[The beligerance of the Aruban government spokeman was outrageous. He stated that Aruban police would not be allowed in the US to conduct an investigation. In other words we are not going to allow the FBI to help with our investigation.]

He's been saying that for 2-3 days now. They don't want FBI any where near this. Too many mistakes have been made and they certainly don't want American investigators shining any more light on them than there already is.

1,236 posted on 07/02/2005 6:55:33 PM PDT by truthluva

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To: TexKat

Yes. It was Ruben Trapenberg that stated the FBI would not be allowed to assist in the investigation. He stated that the US would not allow Aruban investigators to work in your country. Does he know what the word assist means. A real a**hole and could be part of a possible coverup.

1,237 posted on 07/02/2005 6:59:34 PM PDT by doc

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To: doc

It seems to me, with as much drug money, etc. passing through that island, the powers that be would make sure they had their people in every position that they could possibly be needed. Total control.

1,238 posted on 07/02/2005 7:03:09 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: doc

I was letting the call for the boycott of Aruba slid by me, but not anymore. I am so pissed. I just ran up to the 7-11 and the cashier was talking to another customer, carrying on about how he spoke 3 different languages and that Americans only spoke one.

Oh I let him have it. I told him it only required one language to send him back from whence he came. And that his 3 languages had gotten him very far behind the counter cashiering at the 7-11. And then I got the opportunity to tell him well you might speak 3 languages but you do not understand english very well because that is not what I asked you for (the items that I was purchasing.).

I guess I better stay at home before some other foreigner has to be subject to my wrath.

1,239 posted on 07/02/2005 7:03:57 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: doc

I saw that on Heartland. John K. cut him off when he sarted to complain about how that kind of statement was making Aruba look bad. (boo hoo) John K. told him that if Scotland Yard wanted to come here and assist in an investigation we would let them do it. Trapenberg is a pr!ck.

1,240 posted on 07/02/2005 7:04:30 PM PDT by truthluva

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