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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4
Link to previous Natalee Holloway Thread ^ | 6/30/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/30/2005 8:31:27 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Posted on 06/23/2005 12:44:51 PM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429067/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Ariel/Satellite Map of Aruba
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=12.564583,-70.035954&spn=0.089264,0.123081&z=4&t=k&hl=en

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

Online TV Show Links


Shortcuts...

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty  (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network


Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: xsmommy

Yes, these southern women may do such things to deter unwanted company BUT they always accompany their actions with a smile and a "Bless your heart, I'll pray for you!" and that makes it good.


1,201 posted on 07/02/2005 5:39:52 PM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: All

The Equusearch guy just said "we've got some things of real interest we hit upon today".


1,202 posted on 07/02/2005 5:41:26 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (Does Anita van der Sloot suffer from Carolyn Condit syndrome?)
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To: monkeywrench; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ..
Anyone watching the Heartland.

It is getting or have gotten uglier in Aruba.

Did any of you Ruben Trapenberg admirers hear Jug Twitty state that Ruben said they could bring a hundred (helpers, not sure if it was FBI,etc., but they will not be allowed to assist in the search.

1,203 posted on 07/02/2005 5:43:56 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Ruben Trapenberg was a first-class pr*ck tonight.


1,204 posted on 07/02/2005 5:45:16 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (Does Anita van der Sloot suffer from Carolyn Condit syndrome?)
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To: Sunshine55
The Equusearch guy just said "we've got some things of real interest we hit upon today".

His name is Tim Miller. He also said that they (Equusearch) do not know what a Marine uniform looks like. IMO I believe Mr. Miller was stating more or less they have not seen any Dutch Marines.

1,205 posted on 07/02/2005 5:47:15 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
Oh, no. Guess there's lotsa stuff they don't want found. I read some kook poster on another site say that the aruban govt. told the Twittys to leave.

Time for some 'shock and awe'. Our govt. has plenty of leverage aginst these corrupt little pols. They need to start using it.

1,206 posted on 07/02/2005 5:48:09 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Sunshine55

Probably bodies.


1,207 posted on 07/02/2005 5:48:52 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Dark Skies

I've never smelled it, either,
and I've not been hiding under
a rock & I'm getting pretty old.


1,208 posted on 07/02/2005 5:53:02 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Sunshine55; Fred Nerks
Sunshine

The Equusearch guy just said "we've got some things of real interest we hit upon today"

Did you hear him say that on TV or did someone report that he said that?

1,209 posted on 07/02/2005 5:53:26 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Sunshine55
From SM:

On FOX - Tim Miller - EquuSearch

Divers took dangerous dives today. Some things of interest showed up on sonar. EquuSearch wants to stay out of the political mess. EquuSearch doesn't talk to arubian officials anymore.

1,210 posted on 07/02/2005 5:54:39 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Dark Skies

Mr. Miller just said it on Heartland w/John Kasich (FOX)


1,211 posted on 07/02/2005 5:54:46 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (Does Anita van der Sloot suffer from Carolyn Condit syndrome?)
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To: the Deejay
I had an elderly aunt that had cancer...she endured a lot of pain for a long time. Once she finally agreed to get some pot, life was at least bearably. She lived with my parents...I lived in NYC (eight hundred miles away).

Most people nowadays have at least smelled it. But if not...that's not a bad thing.

1,212 posted on 07/02/2005 5:57:44 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
From SM:

Wow - just heard Tim Miller...and he is FURIOUS! He said their group doesn't even talk to anyone else any more. He is sick of the politics.

_______________________________________________________

He also said they are brining in more resources. They are very concerned about some things they found.

_______________________________________________________

Whoa, did anyone just see Tim from Equasearch on Fox. He's pissed. He said he's not sharing anything with anyone but her family...that's it. He said it's a political mess over there!

1,213 posted on 07/02/2005 5:57:50 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
He said it's a political mess over there!

I knew that from day one.

The entire country is a "mess".

1,214 posted on 07/02/2005 6:00:12 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Sunshine55

Thx, Sunshine...sounds like something is coming up soon (and not regarding extraneous evidence, but regarding Nat).


1,215 posted on 07/02/2005 6:00:20 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: TexKat
He said it's a political mess over there!

We knew it...it is a criminal mess over there. Here comes the light...run, roach, run.

No insult intended for roaches!

1,216 posted on 07/02/2005 6:03:18 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: TexKat

I wish I could high jack the remote control. Messy politics means corrupt liberals running things. I think the good times are about over for some of these dutch expats.


1,217 posted on 07/02/2005 6:05:18 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Dark Skies; the Deejay
From SM:

Tim Miller should be pissed he has gotten totally jerked around by the Police and gov't in Aruba.

Arubagirl so why arent the marines that were promised a week ago helping in the search? Why is Tim Miller so pissed that he won't even talk to the police?

I am sorry to say it comes down to one thing and one thing only and that is a cover up. The spokesman for the govt lies his ass off. Talks about the FBI working hand in hand with them and they are all welcome. BUT they are NOT. He is hiding behind lies. They don't want them too investigare or interrogate. It can be done under Dutch Law and has been done before.

The jets were suppose to be there today now its Monday. Hmm let's see court date set for Monday too.

The Marines have been searching on their own and refuse to work with Tim. As he said, he's never seen one.

1,218 posted on 07/02/2005 6:06:42 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: All

Political mess, criminal mess...sounds like the USA, overrun with illegal aliens no one does anything...Michael Jackson, OJ Simpson, Robert Blake..all walking freee...


1,219 posted on 07/02/2005 6:06:56 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

At least those guys got a trial. Politicians weren't standing between them and evidence, stonewalling justice.


1,220 posted on 07/02/2005 6:10:33 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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