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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:

1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.

2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.

3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.

4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.

5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.

6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.

7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.

8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.

The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.

We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.

We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.

If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.

We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.

Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.

Let the discussion begin!

Signed,

The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: antifreepers; antimilitary; bloodlust; cary; clownposse; du; eugenics; euthanasia; forcedexit; moles; murder; nazi; singer; trolls; wildturkeys; wppff; zot
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To: 68 grunt

I'm not the one scrambling to find euphemisms and justifications for murder. Call me what you will, the truth won't change.


1,541 posted on 03/30/2005 12:11:54 PM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: thoughtomator

No, you're the one using murder and other hyperbolic euphemisms to support your irrational position. I didn't call you anything, but I do think you appear foolish.


1,542 posted on 03/30/2005 12:14:51 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: EllaMinnow

I wonder if there is any dissent among the medical community regarding his ability to develop greater--i.e. sufficient--lung capacity.


1,543 posted on 03/30/2005 12:15:31 PM PST by Petronski (If Reichskanzler Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: EveningStar

Assuming it's true?

Did you miss the link posted yesterday on the web site the Schindlers run. Last few sentences CONFIRM it's true.

And does it depend on how they use the $100/video they sell of their daughter dying in bed? No. It's still disgusting.


1,544 posted on 03/30/2005 12:15:44 PM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: verity
He seemed positive about her appearance. I wonder what happened to the bleeding eyes etc?

When did her father say that?

1,545 posted on 03/30/2005 12:16:23 PM PST by Mo1
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To: 68 grunt

I'm willing to bear your opinion that I look foolish. I disagree entirely, finding that those trying to justify this murder - and that is what it is, given that starvation is too cruel to fit the definition of euthanasia - look like far worse than mere fools.


1,546 posted on 03/30/2005 12:18:03 PM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
"There is far more money pouring in to the Schindlers - all the pro-life groups are raising tons of money for them - and very little going to the other side. Considering who keeps prevailing in the various courts, it's weird because usually tons of money can buy justice...

Yeah, it is weird. I mean, especially seeing as all those polls show that the majority of America supports the removal of Terri's feeding tube.
1,547 posted on 03/30/2005 12:21:23 PM PST by green pastures
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To: Petronski

There is no dissent that I have read. The mother received no prenatal care and the child had a rare and always fatal form of dwarfish. She selfishly prolonged his life while refusing to acknowledge that he would never live to see his first birthday regardless of any and all heroic measures. He was slowly suffocating on a ventilator.


1,548 posted on 03/30/2005 12:21:49 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: thoughtomator

'To murder' is unlawful. To insist this is murder is hyperbole. I wouldn't be so opposed if you said 'to kill', but thats not right either. She is lawfully being allowed to die. May she rest in peace.


1,549 posted on 03/30/2005 12:26:13 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Long Cut

UPDATE:

Court rejects new hearing for Schindlers.


1,550 posted on 03/30/2005 12:26:35 PM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: annyokie; atlaw; EllaMinnow

Well, I don't believe there is any moral requirement for heroic measures that only prolong the process of imminent death.

I signed my own mother's DNR (to spare my father the duty) when she lay dying from stage four metastatic colon cancer (which overran her liver in a matter of weeks!). Signing that form was a moment I will never forget.

Even then, she was given hydration, nutrition and of course pain management.


1,551 posted on 03/30/2005 12:28:05 PM PST by Petronski (If Reichskanzler Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: Peach
Court rejects new hearing for Schindlers.

Just heard that.

surprise, surprise....not!

I knew how they were going to rule when I heard the 'breaking news' last night.

1,552 posted on 03/30/2005 12:28:29 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: green pastures

I guess you didn't go to the Schindler web site; it was linked to the thread last night and the last few sentences clearly detail that the video is definitely for sale.


1,553 posted on 03/30/2005 12:28:41 PM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: Peach

Did you ever find out what they were going for this time Peach? I never saw the filing.


1,554 posted on 03/30/2005 12:29:01 PM PST by MKM1960 (Now I know how Tom Daschle felt: "I'm saddened, deeply saddened")
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To: 68 grunt
It's more than merely being "allowed to die". She was not dying. People who are terminally ill are "allowed to die". This woman is being forced to die.

If any human being were subject to the same restraint as Terri Schiavo - complete denial of food and water - then you too would starve and die, just as she is. Under those circumstances I bet there would be no doubt in your mind that what was happening to you was murder.

1,555 posted on 03/30/2005 12:30:39 PM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: Petronski

I'm sorry to learn that. My mother and I had to make some hard decisions when my grandmother had the last in her series of strokes. It's not easy.


1,556 posted on 03/30/2005 12:35:20 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: Petronski; EllaMinnow
Sun Hudson case....sad, very, very sad.

Mother is a black woman, poor,

couldn't afford feeding tube care,

and hospital pulled the tube,

against mother's wishes.

Public at large didn't care.

1,557 posted on 03/30/2005 12:36:10 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: thoughtomator
We're at the same impasse. She can't think, she can't feed herself, she can't swallow, she can't feel pain, and the courts have found in the hubby's favor. That's the end of the chapter. Open a new chapter, how we reform the judicial mess? It sure isn't through cutting the binds which hold us together.
1,558 posted on 03/30/2005 12:38:03 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: annyokie

Thanks.

Losing a parent is the way of the world, but when it happens, that axiom is cold comfort.


1,559 posted on 03/30/2005 12:39:07 PM PST by Petronski (If Reichskanzler Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: the Deejay

Please don't misrepresent the Sun Hudson case. There is an article that is hotlinked up the thread. The child's care and the mother's legal expenses were paid for by the hospital. The issue was entirely different with this child.


1,560 posted on 03/30/2005 12:39:09 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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