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To: Jim Robinson; Grampa Dave
"Final note: I do NOT support open borders or illegal immigration. Sincerely doubt there are many on this forum who do."

I agree with you 100 percent. We were talking on another thread the other day about trollish behavioral patterns the other day. One of the things that came up were those individuals who do exactly what we're seeing here. They post nasty stuff, get it pulled, and then whine that you're systematically censoring their right to free speech.

Not all who claim to be conservatives really are. Some are just trollish infiltrators, drunk on their own cleverness.

20 posted on 02/11/2005 11:01:15 AM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: cake_crumb
Not all who claim to be conservatives really are. Some are just trollish infiltrators, drunk on their own cleverness.

Not to mention that by tolerating vigilante groups opens the site up to a significant amount of legal liability. Let the vigilantes pimp their blogs elsewhere. If your interested in that kind of thing, it's easy enough to find. In the meantime, if and when the excrement strikes the oscillator, we don't want to get splattered. And who the heck are these "open border" posters? Anyone I've ever seen posting that crap gets flamed so fast a banning is an act of mercy!

92 posted on 02/11/2005 11:17:02 AM PST by gracie1 (Visualize whirled peas!)
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To: cake_crumb

I see enough criticism but no solution.
I see open borders on hhe Canadian border and no uproar.
I had a sister in law that worked here 30 years as an illegal Canadian.

Just how many men & women would it take to close both borders?

Last but not least,we don't have any idea how many illegals are here.
Maybe we should tag the one's we catch like they do some fish.


117 posted on 02/11/2005 11:22:31 AM PST by hubno (hub)
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To: cake_crumb

It's a little like the way the muxxles are trained to complain that they're being tortured.

I suppose it's like swearing. There are a lot of people lurking on this site trying to find something to hang Jim on and get this place closed down. We have to be intelligent enough to exercise some restraint in posting. Sometimes emotions get the best of posters. Usually I think it is the disruptors who post the garbage, for the above reason.


628 posted on 02/11/2005 1:54:06 PM PST by johnb838 (Evolution is Paganizm.)
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To: cake_crumb
We were talking on another thread the other day about trollish behavioral patterns the other day...

...Not all who claim to be conservatives really are. Some are just trollish infiltrators, drunk on their own cleverness.

I wish I'd seen that discussion. Lately, I've been thinking the same thing - I've been reading discussions that are so odd that I too began to conclude there were way too many "trollish infiltrators" posting in these these days.

826 posted on 02/11/2005 3:07:23 PM PST by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: cake_crumb

Not all who claim to be conservatives really are. Some are just trollish infiltrators.....

The power of the mainstream media was significantly reduced in 2004 and the power of FR and the Blogs became apparent to the world.
A large number of new members have started posting since Rathergate.
While pseudo conservatives might be here, the power of reason and truth might "backfire" on them and they'll end as good Freepers. That's happened to many a lurker.
Keep up the good work JR.


925 posted on 02/11/2005 3:47:36 PM PST by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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To: cake_crumb
Not all who claim to be conservatives really are. Some are just trollish infiltrators, drunk on their own cleverness.

And of course, some genuine conservatives are also jerks.

1,019 posted on 02/11/2005 4:34:05 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane (http://drunkengop.blogspot.com/)
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To: cake_crumb
Not all who claim to be conservatives really are. Some are just trollish infiltrators, drunk on their own cleverness.
And trying to give FR a black eye. I have no doubt that the MSM (I prefer lamestream media - but can't credit the origin) would love to marginalize FR by tying them to whacko militant groups. Keep a sharp lookout Jim! ;-)

It would be difficult to count the number of surviving FReepers who have criticized Dubya's immigration stances and those of other federal agencies including Homeland Security but if you're going to bother put me on both sides as I see the danger but know real people who benefit from the illegal but but commonplace reality.

1,578 posted on 02/11/2005 10:26:33 PM PST by Tunehead54 (I'm not winking - this way I only have to hit the shift key once - so I'm lazy! ;-)
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To: cake_crumb

"You're" was meant as "anyone" not directed to you < /clarifying > ;-)


1,611 posted on 02/11/2005 10:47:02 PM PST by Tunehead54 (I'm not winking - this way I only have to hit the shift key once - so I'm lazy! ;-)
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