Posted on 11/19/2004 7:54:02 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Big time fist throwing. Fans, players and more. Any thoughts ?
Some big bald white guy with a cap launched a beer at Artest whose laying on the scoretable. Artest flew out and went after the wrong guy. The same guy who threw the beer jumped into the fray and went after Artest and it became a melee.
The Pacers players jumped in against the fans. The fans pushed to the floor. Beer flew everywhere. Some of the Pistons players tried to be peacekeepers, but no avail.
He was actually. He's an announcer.
What's busier at NBA HQ - the phone lines for disciplinary action or the phone lines to EA Sports to incorporate brawls into the next version of NBA 200x?
Wow. You saw a lot more detail than I did. My understanding, BTW, is that the Pistons "fan" hit Artest with a BOTTLE. That's very different.
And Artest did not seem to be grinning and gloating or whatever you insinuated as he lay on the scorers' table. I know because you didn't see his face, nor did anyone else in the country.
Artest took a HARD shot to the throat by Rasheed Wallace, a crack-head from Portland- "Home of the Gangsta NBA Playa"- and fought back.. Then, laying on his back on the scorers' table, he gets hit by a glass bottle. That's Assualt and Battery, folks. I'd have gone after that "fan" too.
Uh, the fans are at fault here.
Why not say "N___" and be done with it?
Charging into the stands is definitely wrong. They needed to let security handle it. I think the players who went after the fans are going to face league punishment. We have already seen this happen in baseball.
I feel sorry for that poor referee trying to stop the fight. Isn't basketball a family event?
You got it wrong. Artest got pushed in the throat by "nice guy" Ben Wallace. He way overreacted.
Rasheed tried to BREAK UP THE FIGHT.
And thanks for insulting my team(Portland.)
The fan was caught on camera. He threw a beer at Artest. He's also the third man in the fight as well when Artest went after the wrong guy. .
I may be mistaken, but I think the beer bottles they sell at sporting events are plastic now, not glass (and as we learned tonight, for good reason)....
Umm....you're kidding, right?
If you're not you've basically managed to get every single fact about the brawl wrong.
It was BEN Wallace, not Rasheed, that sort of punch-shoved Artest in the throat after Artest put a hard foul on him.
And Artest was hit with a plastic cup with a little bit of ice in it when he was lying down. Not a glass bottle.
that's kinda weird, sloth
Ben Wallace's brother died a few days ago. Not that that excuses him or anything. But he's probably not in his usual sunny state of mind.
Detroit lost, now 4 - 4.
Pacers won with mainly second string because of injuries.
Another win for a Red state (my home).
It's hilarious. If anything, the NBA was far worse in the 70s. Sure, some of these guys are thugs, but a lot of them are more harmless posers. But in the 70s cocaine and violence and criminality were part and parcel of what the NBA offered.
And even back in teh 20s you read how many administrators and others condemned football or other sports.
There was no "romantic past." You think none of these racist fantasies would exist after Ty Cobb, Mickey Mantle or Paul Hornung came and went.
I LOVE THIS GAME!
When Artest was on the table, I thought he might have been injured. When they showed a replay from another angle, he had his hands behind head and had raised his head to see what was going on.
It was not a glass bottle that hit him, it was a blue plastic cup, and after seein numerous replays, it hit him in the upper chest/neck/lower face region, and had some liquid in it.
Regardless, the league needs to take all this into consideration if they plan to discipline Artest. I wouldn't blame him at all.
LOL...it took 96 posts for someone to say that.
I gotta be in the minority here and blame Artest. There is no excuse for an athlete to go into the stands. Sure, there was a jerk who throw a plastic cup at him as he layed down like a poseur on the scorer's table. Artest goes ballistic and rampages into the crowd...attacking the wrong guy! Fans got beer muscles and started fighting back. Then, a real brouhaha erupted. Unbelievable scene.
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