Pacers Pistons game ends up in major violence ... WOW

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[LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget]

Big time fist throwing. Fans, players and more. Any thoughts ?

[Johnnyboy2000]

Anyone who punches an NBA player in the face is fine with me.

[NYCVirago]

ESPN just replayed the entire incident from the time of Wallace's thuggery on the court to it's conclusion without any editing. (as originally aired)

I just watched it. WTF was up with the cop threatening to pepper spray Artest when he was on the court? You got fans running on the court and throwing stuff, and they're going after Artest when he was doing nothing at that point?

[hole_n_one]

If the NBA needs a new commish, you've got my vote!

[GSWarrior]

Any Tarheels fans on board? I watched your boys lose tonight to Santa Clara.

[self_evident]

From what I could tell the guy with the cap had his hands in his pocket

Later on, though, as Artest was being drug out, that guy tried (and mostly failed) to sucker-punch him. I was never able to figure out who threw the cup either... but plenty of people there will know.

[Skywalk]

What's interesting is that the guys on the team are absolutely KILLING the NBA this year. Lebron, Melo has just recently come out of a funk, Amare is DOMINATING, and even Boozer is playing really well.

I think the team was handicapped by a coach who refused to play the most gifted player on the team(Lebron) and in a Joe GIbbs-like fashion, refused to bench players that were performing poorly like Marbury and Jefferson through most of the tournament. He also was WAY too intent on getting guys to play "his way" instead of the way that would INSURE they play the best they could, which are NOT the same things.

But true, throwing guys together, especially all those 19-20 year old guys and then getting jobbed by the refs over and OVER(they were calling travelling on HEAD FAKES, for godssakes) and the refs in the NBA are actually SUPERIOR to the non-FIBA ones used in the olympics---all that will result in losses.

Hell, if the team just had Michael Redd for shooting, they probably would have won the Gold.

It's odd how we expect perfection in basketball, but Tiger and the Ryder Cup Americans with better players don't get razzed for stinking up the joint...

Basketball is a global game and Manu Ginobili is a top player in the game---the NBA game isn't worse, otherwise Ginobili and Nowitzki wouldn't be as good as they are---it's different and the rest of the world is no longer in awe and we sent inexperienced guys and a bad coach(for that setup)

[Mo1]

That would tend to cause many fans in the stands to go over the top. I'm not condoning the rowdy fans who tossed stuff and rushed the court. And for those fans that came on the court, they got what they deserved and should be fined and arrested.

I'm sitting here watching the replay of ESPN and they are blaming the Fans and not the players

Yes it was wrong for a fan to through a cup .. but this dude lost his cool and started swinging at the first person he saw

And then when he gets back on the court .. sucker punches the first guy he sees on the court

[hole_n_one]

I couldn't tell if the cop was threatening Artest or Reggie Miller, who, while in street clothes, was trying to restrain Artest by grabbing him.

Maybe the cop thought Miller was simply another nut that left his paid seat.

It's a stunning piece of video to watch.

[clooney4824]

Double digit IQ's playing a childs game while being paid millions of dollars-DUH!!!! Anyone who pays to see these idiots in any sport are idiots themselves.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Thanks. Taking down the freaks at Burger King's ad agency would be my first priority...

[TheWyzzyrd]

"psls ect ."

Please explain?

[ZoSo]

And that statement is beyond idiotic.

[Mo1]

Later on, though, as Artest was being drug out, that guy tried (and mostly failed) to sucker-punch him.

He sucker punched Artest after Artest started beating the crap out of that younger guy

If I was there .. I would have hit Artest also in an attempt to help the younger guy ... and yes, I'm from Philly .. *L*

Like I said .. whoever throw the cup was wrong .. But Artest should have stayed out of the stands

[clooney4824]

the truth is idiotic??? How quaint!

[Barlowmaker]

You don't even know that scouting, defense, more controlled offensive sets and the like are responsible for the decrease in scoring. Defense and athletes are just better now.

As teams threw up more three pointers, scoring went down. You can see the trend slowly emerging from 84-now.

Although, this year the scoring and shooting has been stellar.

[Skywalk]

Naw, just rewatched another angle where they did a replay of it--it was the guy in the hat.

[PISANO]

Seems as if Joe Dumars is the ONLY person who believes the PLAYERS should be above the FRAY and that going into the stands was WRONG. Everyone else think the PLAYERS were justified and had no other CHOICE but to enter the stands. The ESPN crew even said that ONCE a fan enters the court they are fair game and DESERVE what they got. I guess that doesn't hold true for the PLAYERS when they enter the stands however!!

It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. The sad truth is that the FANS emulate the PLAYERS and they deserve each other.

[Joe Hadenuf]

that footage was insane, some players are going to e sued up the ying yang by the fans they punched out

Not just the players, anyone involved, the teams, their sponsors, the stadium, their agents, the coaches, you name it. There was a lady laying on the ground, possibly trampled or had a medical reaction to this scene of violent chaos.

What a mad house.

Keep your families away from this sh*t.

[ZoSo]

I believe George Will is quite the baseball fan.

I'm not sure what his IQ is, but I'm guessing it wouldn't fall under "idiot".

Perhaps you'd disagree.