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Is There New Evidence That Jesus Had a Wife?
Townhall ^ | 04/14/2014 | Michael Brown

Posted on 04/14/2014 9:05:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The internet has been abuzz with intriguing headlines announcing that scholars have determined that the so-called “Gospel of Jesus’ Wife” papyrus is “authentic” and that there is “no forgery evidence” in the manuscript.

What exactly does this mean? And should Christians be concerned that a new discovery might contradict the biblical account and undermine their faith?

Actually, the report from scholars working with the Harvard Divinity School found that the manuscript is much younger than previously thought – in other words, it is even further removed from the time of the New Testament than scholars originally believed – meaning that, at most, it is a very late myth without a stitch of historical support.

What the report did say was that there was no evidence that any part of this small manuscript had been forged, so what was written was “authentic” in terms of not being the work of a modern forger.

But the scholars did not determine that the apparent reference to Jesus having a wife was authentic. How could they?

As New Testament scholar Darrell Bock observed back in September, 2012 when the find was first announced, “In the New Testament, the church is presented as the bride of Christ. And then in Gnostic Christianity in particular, there’s a ritual - about which we don't know very much - that portrayed the church as the bride of Christ. So we could simply have a metaphorical reference to the church as the bride, or the wife, of Christ.”

And what if this text recorded Jesus as saying that one of his disciples would be his wife?

Bock explained that, “This would be the first text - out of hundreds of texts that we have about Jesus - that would indicate that he was married, if it’s even saying that. So to suggest that one text overturns multiple texts, and multiple centuries, of what has been said about Jesus and what’s been articulated about him, I think is not a very wise place to go, just simply from a historical point of view.”

Initially, when Harvard professor Karen King learned about this papyrus fragment written in the Coptic language, which was used by the ancient, heretical, Gnostic Christians, she thought it might have been a forgery, as did other scholars, especially from the Vatican. But upon further study, she concluded it was not, dating it to the fourth century A.D.

Yet how seriously should we take a fourth century report about Jesus, who was crucified around 30 A.D., especially when it contradicts every other piece of evidence we have about Jesus up to that time? As Prof. Bock said, this “is not a very wise place to go, just simply from a historical point of view.”

To give you a parallel example, how seriously would future historians take a report written 300 years after Pearl Harbor that contradicted every single report that preceded it, including all reports from all eye witnesses?

But the latest report – the one creating such a stir – claims that the tiny manuscript should not be dated to the fourth century. Instead, scholars have now dated it to approximately 741 A.D., meaning, more than 700 years after the time of Jesus. What kind of “evidence” is this?

It would be similar to historians 1,000 years from now finding a letter written in the year 2510 claiming that George Washington, who died in 1799, was actually an alien from Mars. How seriously would it be taken? (Come to think of it, the Ancient Aliens series has probably made a similar claim already!)

There remains no evidence of any kind that Jesus had a wife (note to the reader: Dan Brown’s fictional The Da Vinci Code is not evidence), and the only thing scholars did was determine that this small papyrus fragment was not a modern forgery, although it was hundreds of years younger than they originally thought.

Of course, it is still not totally clear that the manuscript even claims Jesus had a wife, but we know that within 150 years of the time of Jesus, there were fictional gospels circulating with all kinds of bogus claims. Should it surprise us, then, that many centuries later, another fictitious account with yet another new claim would be written down?

Unfortunately, many casual readers and skeptics now think that some “authentic” new evidence has been discovered supporting the idea that Jesus was married, and even Christians are asking if they should be concerned about this latest find.

Rest assured that nothing has been discovered that even remotely challenges the biblical account, and if this very late text does imply that Jesus had a wife, what we have is an authentic fabrication and nothing more.


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1 posted on 04/14/2014 9:05:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

No.


2 posted on 04/14/2014 9:08:03 AM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: SeekAndFind

I still believe that knowing his mission involved ultimate Crucifixion, he would not have married. Would be too cruel a thing to put your spouse through.


3 posted on 04/14/2014 9:08:04 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind
I don't have an opinion on it one way of the other. I lean, however, to the school of thought which claims he did. Otherwise, how would the only begotten Son of God have a thorough understanding of man's temptations of the flesh?

In either case, it no way diminishes who he was.

4 posted on 04/14/2014 9:11:00 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Since Jesus was a coo on name, I am sure some one named Jesus had a wife.

My Lord and Savior, Jesus of Nazareth did not


5 posted on 04/14/2014 9:11:47 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

That should have said common not coo


6 posted on 04/14/2014 9:12:44 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: SeekAndFind

Is there any new evidence the moon landing was faked?


7 posted on 04/14/2014 9:13:15 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Headline phrased as a question. That is one of the things I hate about MSN.com. Every third article is headlined by a question. If they have to ask a question, they don’t know anything, so it is useless to read. Same as this: After over 2000 years, pretty much every shred of evidence of anything has already been found.


8 posted on 04/14/2014 9:15:24 AM PDT by webheart (Watch out for the bots! They will disagree with you!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jesus may have married...In which case, he likely had a herd of kids...I could be one of the decendents...


9 posted on 04/14/2014 9:15:57 AM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Iscool

I think Sam Kinison pretty much nailed why Jesus couldn’t have been married.


10 posted on 04/14/2014 9:16:58 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course the Christian’s deified rabbi had a wife! If he followed the Torah in letter and Spirit he certainly was. Of course, I’ll get flack about it, but here are the commandments.
(Keep in mind that Jewish men are supposed to get married per God, but rabbis doubly so because they set the example.)

Two times God says to go forth and multiply.
Genesis 1:28 and 9:7 (have children)

God officiated Adam and Eve’s marriage. Genesis 2:24

Then take a look at Deuteronomy, chapter 24:1-5.

Marry childless brother’s widow (even if you are already married. This is known as ‘yibum.’). Deuteronomy 25:5

If a man (or woman) refuses to marry his brother’s widow then he must perform the commandment called ‘chalitzah’ in order to free her from the required marriage and allow her to marry someone else. Deuteronomy 25:7-10

The rapist must marry the maiden (if she chooses to do so). Deuteronomy 22:29

The slanderer must remain married to the wife he slandered and not allowed to divorce her. Deuteronomy 22:19

Not to marry a woman and her daughter, or her son’s daughter, or her daughter’s daughter. Leviticus 18:17

Not to marry non-Jews. Deuteronomy 7:3

Not to let Moabite and Ammonite males marry into the Jewish people. Deuteronomy 23:4 (Doesn’t really apply any more since Moabites and Ammonites don’t exist now.)

Don’t keep a third generation Egyptian convert from marrying into the Jewish people. Deuteronomy 23:8-9

Not to refrain from marrying a third generation Edomite convert. Deuteronomy 23:8-9 (Doesn’t really apply since there are no more third generation Edomites around.)

Not to let a bastard marry into the Jewish people. Deuteronomy 23:3

Not to let a eunuch marry into the Jewish people. Deuteronomy 23:2

The high priest (cohen) must not marry a widow. Leviticus 21:14

The high priest (cohen) must marry a virgin maiden. Leviticus 21:13

A high priest (cohen) must not marry a divorcee. Leviticus 21:7

A cohen must not marry a zonah (a woman who had forbidden relations) or a chalalah Leviticus 21:7

So either the Christian’s defied rabbi and Paul/Saul are either a card-carrying Jews who followed Torah to the letter as well as in Spirit, or what is written in the Christian’s New Testament is a lie or a mis-translation.
Also, take a look at this article and see what you think.

Was the Apostle Paul Married?
http://www.dennyburk.com/was-the-apostle-paul-married/


11 posted on 04/14/2014 9:17:19 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Vigilanteman

You do have to engage in a temptation to know what it is. His time in the desert was enough and then the offers from Satan to rule in this world.

If you concede He had a wife, you open the door to those who say He had children. That opens up another can of worms


12 posted on 04/14/2014 9:18:27 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: SeekAndFind

An observant Jew of that day would be likely to follow the instruction to go forth and multiply; to do so without sin would require a wife, wouldn’t it? Yet other than a mysterious reference to a “beloved disciple” there is no mention of a spouse.

If we ask, He will tell us, later.


13 posted on 04/14/2014 9:20:07 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The absurdity of the idea can be seen when you consider all that is known about (the human) Jesus Christ. Jesus wasn’t just famous after he died. He was a renowned celebrity of sorts (to compare to today). He was considered a divisive figure (mostly by the High Priests and Religious/Political Leaders. Jesus was an activist. He fought for the meek, humble and ostracized. His existence and biography was recorded historically in more than just the bible.

That he intervened in Mary’s (prostitute) stoning was BIG news. I would think that a secret wife of Jesus would have come out.

That said, Jesus had siblings. What happened to them? Where are the distant removed cousins of Christ?


14 posted on 04/14/2014 9:21:10 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: Nifster

“You do have to engage in a temptation to know what it is.”

Which is the greater temptation? To engage in it as a single man or when married?


15 posted on 04/14/2014 9:22:07 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Tenacious 1

He was a rabbi that followed the letter of the Torah as well as in the Spirit of it. He tried to get all of Israel to do the same which resulted in him being described as you have said.


16 posted on 04/14/2014 9:25:51 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Tenacious 1

or that the moon landing has caused all the subsequent weather patterns to change.

My cousin truly believe that it did. sigh


17 posted on 04/14/2014 9:27:06 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: Vigilanteman

Your opinion is interesting but one would have to believe in something other or in addition to The Bible to get there.


18 posted on 04/14/2014 9:28:06 AM PDT by excalibur21
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To: SeekAndFind

Translation:

bag rice
small basket olives
bunch grapes
pomegranate
crock honey
chicken
jar wine

It's a freakin' grocery list!

19 posted on 04/14/2014 9:28:36 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

They are equivalent....


20 posted on 04/14/2014 9:34:54 AM PDT by Nifster
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