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Is There New Evidence That Jesus Had a Wife?
Townhall ^ | 04/14/2014 | Michael Brown

Posted on 04/14/2014 9:05:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Nifster

I beg to differ.


21 posted on 04/14/2014 9:36:16 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Which is the greater temptation? To engage in it as a single man or when married?

Good question - let's ask an expert:


22 posted on 04/14/2014 9:37:21 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It’s a fascinating idea to ponder. My faith, one way or another, is unshakable. But my experience, wisdom and relationship with Christ has allowed me to evolve in my understanding of what sort of personality he had; knowing his character. So I keep an open mind.

I was raised Catholic and still practice today with my family. But the image I had of a child as this gentle, quiet, humble (almost feeble) man was wrong. And it has evolved since I was enlightened by a realistic understanding of HUMAN behavior. Human’s gravitate to strong leaders. A leader’s influence relies on two important things: 1) Their following and 2) Their mission. I now understand the more the human side of our Lord; Charismatic, passionate, action orientated, led by example, unafraid, outspoken, opinionated, but still gentle, understanding, compassionate. Jesus showed anger and defiance but remained steadfastly unwavering even as he was tortured and put to death.

If I ever did come to believe he may have been married (and/or the disciples), I’d only be more intrigued and enlightened by our Lord and Savior.


23 posted on 04/14/2014 9:40:33 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: SeekAndFind
God with us had no need of a flesh physical woman. This would be very much akin to incest. He show us who and what is the greatest temptation. And even after fasting for 40 days and 40 nights, Christ was not tempted. Wonder how many will be able to follow Christ? Flesh bodies would not survive 40 days of fasting, but, in Christ any and all can resist the fiery darts of the want-a-be Jesus.
24 posted on 04/14/2014 9:44:56 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Nifster

Jewish men under Torah are allowed to marry up to 18 Jewish women although polygamy was banned by a European rabbi about 1000 years ago.

What if the Christian’s deified rabbi was married to 18 women plus all of the women he might have had? Now multiply the temptation of a married man with 18 wives and compare that a single Jewish man?

That’s a ginormous ball and chain that would be very tempting to get away from compared to the temptation a single Jewish man would face.


25 posted on 04/14/2014 9:49:24 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Vigilanteman

What has being married got to do with temptations of the flesh, aside - possibly - from succumbing to them?


26 posted on 04/14/2014 9:49:59 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SeekAndFind

We were instructed by Paul to avoid foolish controversy and stupid speculations. This is one of them. End of discussion


27 posted on 04/14/2014 9:50:17 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Typo...

“...married to 18 women plus all of the women he might have had?”

Should be...

“... married to 18 women plus all of the children he might have had?”


28 posted on 04/14/2014 9:50:32 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Big deal. Dark Ages fanfic.


29 posted on 04/14/2014 9:53:45 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: SeekAndFind
Part of the reason the Four Gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were written was because false gospels were going out and the record had to be set straight.

Many of these false Gospels seem to come from the same source and usually only one copy. Whereas there are numerous copies of the Four Gospels and they corroborate one another like in a courtroom.

In court you count on the first hand witnesses to avoid hearsay. Sound like this document is more hearsay.

30 posted on 04/14/2014 9:53:53 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Would be too cruel a thing to put your spouse through.

But not his Mother?

31 posted on 04/14/2014 9:55:36 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Vigilanteman
Otherwise, how would the only begotten Son of God have a thorough understanding of man's temptations of the flesh?

Because, being God, He knew and understood the temptations of His own creation. He did not come to earth in the flesh to gain a better understanding of the world, but to save the world.

32 posted on 04/14/2014 9:58:29 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Psalm 14:1 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

RE: But not his Mother?

You can choose to have a wife, you can’t decide whether or not you’ll have a mother.


33 posted on 04/14/2014 10:02:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: Just mythoughts
God with us had no need of a flesh physical woman. This would be very much akin to incest. He show us who and what is the greatest temptation. And even after fasting for 40 days and 40 nights, Christ was not tempted.

Bible doesn't say that...In fact, God tell us that:

Heb_4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

Jesus was sinless by choice, not by birth...

34 posted on 04/14/2014 10:02:41 AM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: SeekAndFind

It don’t make me any difference if Jesus had a wife or not but the religious scholars has to keep the money flowing into their bank accounts just like every one else so there is no don`t doubt we will keep on hearing this drivel.


35 posted on 04/14/2014 10:09:42 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Iscool
Christ was God with us, Creator of all souls/spirit intellect. The Holy Spirit was with Him night and day and there would have been NO desire for a flesh woman. Quite unlike those fallen angels or ‘Sons of God’ referred to in Genesis 6.

Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also Himself likewise took part of the same: that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

It is a devil teaching that promotes this notion that Christ would have been tempted by women, either in marriage to one or a sexual tryst in some oak or fig grove.

36 posted on 04/14/2014 10:14:53 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.


37 posted on 04/14/2014 10:21:41 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Vigilanteman
I lean, however, to the school of thought which claims he did. Otherwise, how would the only begotten Son of God have a thorough understanding of man's temptations of the flesh?

In the understanding of the ancient Israelites, there are three ways man is tempted... the Lust of the Flesh, the Lust of the Eyes and the Pride of Life. 1 John 2:16 references this. The Lust of Flesh is an obvious temptation to giving in to fleshly appetites... sex is one... food is an even greater imperative, when needed. The Lust of the Eyes is avarice in wanting all that you see. The Pride of Life is a desire to make yourself greater than God wills you to be... see the Tower of Babel and other usurpations.

In the Garden of Eden, this is where Adam and Eve failed. When they succumbed, the Bible records that the fruit was "good for food (flesh), pleasing to the eyes (eyes) and profitable to make one wise (pride)." This is code-speak for an Israelite to understand that they were tempted in every way.

Where Adam and Eve failed, Christ succeeded. Although bone-hungry after a 40 days fast in the desert, He didn't give in to the Devil's temptation to make rocks into bread. Although He came to call all peoples to Himself through His death and resurrection (a cup He didn't personally want, if you read His prayers in the Garden of Gethsemane), He spurned the Devil's offer to give them to Him in exchange for worship. Although He is God in the flesh and the Angels attend to Him, He declined to show His power and glory by throwing Himself from the parapet of the Temple to be rescued by Angels in the sight of all.

After Our Lord's temptations, the Bible records that He had been tested in all ways. He didn't need to be married to experience human temptation.

38 posted on 04/14/2014 10:21:58 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If you believe this might be true you do not really believe the Bible.


39 posted on 04/14/2014 10:21:59 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Simple answer. Jesus did marry and God did officiate the ceremony. It was when Jesus was crucified as the sacrificial offering of the New Covenant for His Bride, the Church.

What you posted does not in any way contradict that understanding of the greater truth.

40 posted on 04/14/2014 10:25:08 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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