Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[mkjessup]

keep digging.....

Why, you working on your opus there?

[Jane Austen]

There are so many posts here I am unable to get through even a fraction. Sorry, if this has already been explained. But what is Wide Awakes?

[wagglebee]

Yes we this country was founded on Christian values, but we have a secular government..

And the liberals are trying to ensure that we have a secular nation.

[wagglebee]

Well stated!

[ScreamingFist]

LOL, perhaps you should just calm down.....LOL, but you won’t, you have to prove your point.....can’t take it to corp mail.....naw, I have to listen to you BS all night....rock on....I’m here....

[gondramB]

I hope you don’t think a post like that helps anything.

[ansel12]

I sure agree with you.

[KevinDavis]

That would be the rat party.. That would be Hillary and her folk.. Not Rudy.... Unless you have proof....

[ex-snook]

Been checking into this long series once in a while. Jim is still defending his site against a full-court press of hijackers who want to use his site to advance their own hidden agenda.

Conservatives for Giuliani is an oxymoron. In WW II they were described as a fifth-column [A fifth column is a group of people which clandestinely undermines a larger group..'Wikipedia']. The Rudy-rooters just cross-dress as Conservatives to mask their take-over and Jim has stripped them naked.

[wagglebee]

Anyone who denies the humanity of the unborn to justify the murder of over 3000 infants a day is in favor of a secularized society.

[Rb ver. 2.0]

It’s sounding like a central block committee meeting around here. The liberal conservative purge was one thing, trying to tar just people because they’re registered at different websites is another.

[calcowgirl]

Evidently the WTC, being a privately owned building and all...

FYI, the WTC was NOT privately owned.

It was owned by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

[proud American in Canada]

It’s a place where many long-time (and well-respected) Freepers, who happened to support Rudy because of his stance on the WOT, went, when they were either kicked out or shown the door here at FR.

[mkjessup]

LOL, perhaps you should just calm down.

I'm calm SF. I submit that if anyone was going hysterical in this thread with manic pleas to 'take it to private mail', and 'STFU', it's you.

You DO see that don't you?

You're either projecting, or you're in denial SF.

Only you can answer that question.

[Iwo Jima]

Ah, but you believe that the Minutemen are “vigilantes” and worthy of your contempt.

[DGray]

Some of us conservatives simply want the government to remain secular.

“The blessed Religion revealed in the word of God will remain an eternal and awful monument to prove that the best Institutions may be abused by human depravity; and that they may even, in some instances, be made subservient to the vilest of purposes.” - George Washington

[KevinDavis]

He believes in states should decide in that each state should decide that abortion is legal or not.. It is called States Rights something that some people has forgotten..

[JCEccles]

Wideawakes is a very nice, warm, welcoming place for social liberals. It is far more selective, narrow, and unforgiving in its political outlook than FR.

It is a DU for Rudy groupies.

[mkjessup]

Let's take a look at the rant which brought that response:

"Dancing upon a FReeper's grave makes you giddy... especially because your inbox is overflowing with laughter. You do not speak for conservatives. Your twisted glee (e.g. "ADIOS TWIT!", "Go screw yourself, you little twit,""don’t let the cat cover you up when you head back to your sandbox", and "you can follow Miss Katie right on out the door bucko") sanctioned by FReepmail ballot LOLs does not make your behavior appropriate or conservative. Nor does it resemble anything Christ-like. Hypocrisy such as yours is defenseless for a conservative, and in the eyes of God."
3,453 posted on 04/22/2007 9:22:02 PM EDT by NautiNurse

So early in this thread, I responded to your hysterical raving with my post #3497.

ScreamingFist made a similar comment to me. Big deal. I didn't smash the abuse button, I pointed out that in their zeal to condemn something I had posted upthread, that both Miss Marple and ScreamingFist were engaging in the same sort of behavior they were condemning.

I make no apologies for my post #3497 to you, nor have I asked for any apologies from you for your sneers and ridicule. .

This is a political forum. Things get warm, even hot in here. I can handle it just fine. But if someone can't deal with it, they shouldn't be here, simple as that.

And I'm looking forward to your response to my post #15219.

[wagglebee]

He believes in states should decide in that each state should decide that abortion is legal or not.

Categorically untrue.