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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: mkjessup

LMOA


15,281 posted on 04/29/2007 4:49:53 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: JCEccles; Pravious

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15,282 posted on 04/29/2007 4:50:30 PM PDT by dmw (Conservatives DON'T vote for liberals.)
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To: ScreamingFist
I read it dirt....it was spoken from anger......we don’t just trash members from anger....they get a cool down and a chance to think......

I'm sorry. That post was beyond the pale.

15,283 posted on 04/29/2007 4:50:30 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: gpapa
I'll just throw this out, and take it for what it's worth. I may be in the small minority on this...but I really don't care what people are saying about this site on any other sites. So why are we posting it here?

I can certainly breeze right by it, so it isn't as though it's a real issue. But I've never understood the rationale behind sitting on one site and tracking another.

15,284 posted on 04/29/2007 4:50:35 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: mkjessup

keep digging.....


15,285 posted on 04/29/2007 4:51:25 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: dmw

Don’t care man, they’re gone......


15,286 posted on 04/29/2007 4:52:28 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: mkjessup; Dog Gone
DG is a good guy. He has not been a pro-Rudy, anti-conservative troll.

His comments deserve consideration, even if you disagree with them.

15,287 posted on 04/29/2007 4:53:38 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: wagglebee; All

I did..


15,288 posted on 04/29/2007 4:54:17 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Man needs to reach higher and farther to accomplish the impossible.)
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To: mkjessup
Your hypocrisy and lack of moral character is showing again.
To: NautiNurse

Try the decaf and STFU.

3,497 posted on 04/22/2007 9:40:35 PM EDT by mkjessup


15,289 posted on 04/29/2007 4:56:52 PM PDT by NautiNurse (I am a proud cookie baker.)
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To: wagglebee
Just popped in to say hello. I hope you're doing well. As for me, I've had a howlingly good week, and I'm feeling just peachy. Hate to post and run, but duty calls.


15,290 posted on 04/29/2007 4:56:53 PM PDT by BykrBayb (I've had a howlingly good week, and I'm feeling just peachy. Þ)
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To: KevinDavis

You did what?

I’m sure over at the anti-Freeper site you are a member of they are happy to validate your dislike for religious conservatives. But there is nothing in the Declaration of Independence or Constitution to back up your views.


15,291 posted on 04/29/2007 4:57:27 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Dog Gone; Jim Robinson
The glee in stifling dissent and the herding of long time members to the bugzapper is unprecedented at FR.

Nobody was "herded". Nobody was killed. If you remember correctly, it was your side that had the "glee" in the actual killing of Terri Schiavo.

15,292 posted on 04/29/2007 4:57:49 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: NautiNurse

The “man” has no respect for FR nor himself......don’t bother NN, he want’s a fight......screw him...he had a honorable way out, he choose poorly....


15,293 posted on 04/29/2007 4:59:48 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Jim Robinson

“the Declaration of Independence proclaims that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, including the right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

It was a fraudulent statement at the time and we’re still paying the price for the founder’s failure to include the black man as “all men”.


15,294 posted on 04/29/2007 5:00:51 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: wagglebee; All
Uh yes... We do have a Muslim in Congress, a Jew in a Senate, a Mormon running for President..

Yes we this country was founded on Christian values, but we have a secular government..

Even if I did post at the other site big frakin deal..
15,295 posted on 04/29/2007 5:01:01 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Man needs to reach higher and farther to accomplish the impossible.)
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To: wagglebee

>>Correct, government officials cannot be bound by any religious test. You have yet to show anything that indicates that there is a “separation of church and state.”<<

There is a clear prohibition against the government establishing an official religion or prevent the citizens from freedom to practice religion.

But somehow this has been twisted around and citizens are being prohibited from religious expression whenever they step out onto public property. I don’t understand how the first ammendment can be so misinterpreted as to now say that government has to suppress freedom of religion in public.

It would be so stupid as to be funny if it wasn’t so serious.


15,296 posted on 04/29/2007 5:01:20 PM PDT by gondramB (God only has ten rules, uncle Hank, and he has a much bigger house.)
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To: mkjessup

Your obsession with associations has a Stalinist flavor. Back off and stop being so communist.


15,297 posted on 04/29/2007 5:02:27 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: dirtboy; Dog Gone
DG is a good guy. He has not been a pro-Rudy, anti-conservative troll.
His comments deserve consideration, even if you disagree with them.


He stated that I 'represented everything that's wrong with FR', I suggested he get his vision checked. That was a pretty mild response.

I think I gave his post all the consideration that it warranted.

And I didn't call him a 'little vulgar worm', nor did I scream at him to 'STFU' as was done to me by the posters DG apparently overlooked while he was admonishing me.
15,298 posted on 04/29/2007 5:05:18 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Bookmark


15,299 posted on 04/29/2007 5:05:26 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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To: Barset

You are clueless and dishonorable and unworthy of any type of response from me.


15,300 posted on 04/29/2007 5:05:44 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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