Posted on 01/08/2016 8:16:13 AM PST by doug from upland
Has the State Department released a smoking gun in the Hillary Clinton e-mail scandal? In a thread from June 2011, Hillary exchanges e-mails with Jake Sullivan, then her deputy chief of staff and now her campaign foreign-policy adviser, in which she impatiently waits for a set of talking points. When Sullivan tells her that the source is having trouble with the secure fax, Hillary then orders Sullivan to have the data stripped of its markings and sent through a non-secure channel.
That should be game, set, and match, yes?
“”Making assumptions is a good way to be disappointed.””
“Likewise ignoring facts.”
You outlined several POSSIBILITIES. Possibilities are not facts. Some of the possibilities were criminal offenses, some were not. Don’t count your chickens, etc.
See this Wiki page, and search for "non-paper." It explains what a non-paper is--essentially part of a policy request to a foreign official. Quote:
Written material: This section is used to provide instructions on any written material to be left with the host government official(s). Such material could take the form of an aide-memoire, a letter, or a "non-paper" that provides a written version of the verbal presentation (i.e., the talking points as delivered). Unless otherwise instructed, post should normally provide an aide-memoire or non-paper at the conclusion of a demarche. Any classified aide-memoire or non-paper must be appropriately marked and caveated as to the countries authorized for receipt, e.g. "Rel. UK" indicates "Releasable to the United Kingdom")
Do you have any more possibilities to offer? Anything that doesn't involve breaking the law?
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Whoa: Hillary e-mail instructs aide to transmit classified data without markings
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“Your answer was the possibility they stripped the subject which was classified.”
Where did I say that?
Lets Recap. You asked âWhat would ââ¬Åw no identifying headingââ¬Â mean?â
I replied “IDK, no subject line? It could mean something other than a classification label.”
The point was that we shouldn’t assume the document was classified. It might have only been politically embarrassing and they stripped that part out.
.....and yet, she still walks free. Sigh
Talking points themselves might have zero security issues because if they were for talking it was probably for public consumption.
May not be a smoking anything.
Re what does HDR stand for, Hilary was christened Hilary Diane Rodman at birth.
Again, I see no ‘normal’ admin going through the history of their client to setup mnemonics based on BIRTH names; let alone appending whatever numbering system devised, for a group of (let’s say) 10 users.
At best, it’s a waste of taxpayer $$ (admin/time), at the worst (which I’d wager), nefarious means of obfuscation and deceit.
I don’t disagree with you. Just letting you know where they got HDR from.
With state it could be lots of things, for example: group, person, or nation. Might have talking points for negotiations; cut opium production by 20% over next two years; get release of two American agents in Western city; offer up to $200 million in support... as long as I don't say who or what location/nation this applies to it isn't classified, but if I do then very highly classified.
What heading?
How about Sensitive Compartmentalized Information
Opium = Afghanistan, perhaps Mexico or Pakistan. But the rest of the talking points would narrow it down.
get release of two American agents in Western city;
Is that another talking point or an new example from a different memo? If a new example then the rest of the talking points could ID the country that we are spying on. If the same memo, then the country is obvious and the memo is still classified even with the country name redacted.
There is one case where your scenario would be ok. Specifically the contents of the page are unclassified because a) every item on the page is marked unclassified and b) the totality of the items do no make it classified. But the page is from a classified document and so has top and bottom headers marking it classified. In that case security personnel could scan and send the contents without the top and bottom headers. It is unlikely that it applies to this case but it is possible,
Maybe... we’ll have to wait and see what the FBI comes up with...
Wonder if any of these people have made a deal with the FBI to tell all in exchange for leniency.
Most of the MSM websites are still putting “Hillary broke the law” stories down toward the bottom of their sidebar, which is like saying “Reginal Denny got hit”.
This explains why Shrillary and her team were saying weakly that the documents in her e-mails weren’t marked classified, so how the hell were they supposed to know? The fact is, satellite intelligence pictures were in those e-mails. They weren’t marked with classification markings? BS!!! That stuff is born classified. There’s a reason that reconnaissance pictures (aside from a very few grainy ones) from the Cuban missile crisis are just being publicly released now.
We already know what’s going to happen. It’ll be Wen Ho Lee all over again. The FBI will “accidentally” botch something, violate Hillary’s rights on some technicality, and “have to” let her go because a federal judge “can’t” accept the evidence. Like Wen, they’ll convict Hillary of jaywalking and sentence her to no-show probation while she travels the world.
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