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Why all the Confiscation talk from the Democratic National Socialist Party?
11/4/2015

Posted on 11/04/2015 12:30:09 PM PST by Torcert

In days of yore the Lie was 'No one is talking about Confiscation', but something has changed as of late. Such talk is now common amongst the national Socialist elite despite the lack of a shooting being prevalent in the media.

It is axiomatic that one does not call for confiscation until its foundational steps are in place: Intergalactic Background Checks and Registration. The reason should be clear to everyone, people need to be fooled into registering their firearms with the solemn promise that it won't lead to confiscation. This was the case in the UK for example, were the people were required to register their guns while their fears of them being taken were assuaged with promises that this would not be the case. Eyewitness history informs us that this was the case in national socialist Germany in the 1930's as well.

So why are the nation's Socialists stoking fears of Gun confiscation:

OBAMA ENDORSES AUSTRALIAN-STYLE GUN CONFISCATION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKSvxz5LHHw
Clinton Announces Massive Gun Control Plan http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/16/clinton-announces-massive-gun-control-plan/ via @dailycaller
Hillary thinks Australian-style gun control measures ‘worth considering’ [video] http://twitchy.com/2015/10/16/consider-moving-there-hillary-thinks-australian-style-gun-control-measures-worth-considering-video/
Clinton: Australian-Style Gun Control ‘Worth Considering’ for U.S.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JctBYrIaKvY
Video: New Hillary ad demands more gun control http://hotair.com/archives/2015/11/03/video-new-hillary-ad-demands-more-gun-control/
Yes, They Want to Take Your Guns Away http://thebea.st/1HmJOfM via @thedailybeast
A gun-free society http://wapo.st/1LrJxz3

Do they not realize this will destroy any possibility of obtaining the stepping stone to confiscation –Registration?
They have called for the incremental approach before, they have dropped that LIE for the nuclear option of Confiscation.

Just what could be taking place?

Ponder these points:
1. The tried and true sequence of background checks (Intergalactic and otherwise), Registration followed by Confiscation has worked in the past because people back then didn't have the perspective of history to guide them.

2. The Sandy hook shooting was probably one the best and LAST chance for them to implement registration. Recall that Obama has just stolen.. been elected to a 2nd term and the Democratic National Socialist party was on top of the world. And they failed in this effort.

3. With this past history in mind, they are now "Petal to the Metal" in favour of Confiscation without any pretenses or falsehoods to cover it.

Is it just that the nation's Socialist have gone 'round the bend, or can we explain this Phenomena?

Allow me to Prognosticate what may be happening:

1. They think they can LIE their way out of this one.
Always a possibility, but why bother with talk of the 'C' word in the first place? They can pull in the 'something for nothing crowd'(in this case safety) with their basic tripe about the subject without the needing to fool others later on... No, that isn't the explanation..

2. Now that they've made the big mistake of admitting the obvious, they have no other choice than their current course of action. This is also a plausible reason, but they haven';t had qualms about lying in the past and this issue is certainly no exception. .. No, were this the case they would simply say that they were taken of context and don't believe you're lying eyes (or ears as the case may be) and move on without compounding the problem with more talk of the same..

3. It is a rope a dope -Get the Pro-Liberty Conservative side of the aisle to overreact and thus make them look reasonable by comparison (as if that is even possible).
This is admittedly a better rationale, but its possible benefits don't counterbalance the danger in admitting to their end game.

4. Desperation - The nation's leftists are realizing their chances for implementing Socialism and Confiscation are slipping away and they are acting out in desperation. What this may yield them is very hard to discern, but these circumstances breed recklessness.

Perhaps they think that this Confiscation talk will intimidate (the opposite to 4.) the Pro-Liberty side and get us to compromise on Intergalactic Background Checks.
Perhaps they think that they can confiscate our guns without the ruse of registration.
I just don't know at this point.

5. They want to lose. Let me repeat that: They want to lose.

Before you adjudicate me daft, let me defend my prognostication by first explaining how they want to lose first before addressing the question of Why.

The 'How' is simple - bring up the death Nell for any campaign out side the national socialist elite circles. Hilary is doing this with an ad for Gun Control along with the afore mentioned Confiscation talk.

Now, the Why is a little more tricky...Which brings us back to the beginning.... And thus the reason for writing this...

So what do you think people?

Are explanations 4 and 5 plausible or is there any other rationale for what the leftist national Socialist American Workers' party is doing these day?


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1 posted on 11/04/2015 12:30:09 PM PST by Torcert
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To: Torcert

I think any leftist pol who thinks they can snatch 500 million guns is on crack : )


2 posted on 11/04/2015 12:32:31 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Torcert

I trust leftists understand that threatened confiscation is a declaration of civil war 2.0.


3 posted on 11/04/2015 12:35:08 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("The bipartisan project is to destroy conservatism" .. "Cruz is a thoroughbred conservative." - Rush)
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To: Torcert

Never let a good crisis go to waste.

When socialists are about to lose power, it’s what they do to retain it. Manufacture crisis and capitalize on it.

See the history of socialism for details.


4 posted on 11/04/2015 12:35:39 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Embrace Existential Cage Theory. Solutions start at home.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Yes. They are counting on that very thing. See population requirements under A21/Wildlands Project/Turtle Island provision.

Thats how you get from A-B.


5 posted on 11/04/2015 12:37:16 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Embrace Existential Cage Theory. Solutions start at home.)
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To: Torcert

If you’ve purchased in the last 20 or 30 or however many years they’re registered because BATF isn’t destroying the records turned in to them by FFLs going out of business or upgrading to electronic records.


6 posted on 11/04/2015 12:37:25 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

But they keep on committing political suicide by talking about it.... that is what is so odd about this situation..


7 posted on 11/04/2015 12:38:48 PM PST by Torcert (Che Guevara is DEAD - Get Over it!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I’m starting to come to the conclusion that this is the intention..


8 posted on 11/04/2015 12:39:49 PM PST by Torcert (Che Guevara is DEAD - Get Over it!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

It would seem like there is no other explanation than they want to create a crisis to hold onto power.

Consider that Hillary’s fate is in Obama’s hands and that he said ‘It’s Unconstitutional’ for Me to Run for Third Term...

Obama: ‘It’s Unconstitutional’ for Me to Run for Third Term
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cnsnewscom-staff/obama-its-unconstitutional-me-run-third-term

He also said that about his illegal invasion actions..


9 posted on 11/04/2015 12:43:31 PM PST by Torcert (Che Guevara is DEAD - Get Over it!)
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To: Torcert

It is odd. I guess because they are used to getting their own way close to 100% of the time. It is no longer in their favor.
And the GOPe needs sedatives to get to sleep these days.


10 posted on 11/04/2015 12:48:10 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Torcert

Socialists/muslims never give up power. Not real ones.

They bank on ‘That will never happen because...” fantasies passed around by people lulling each other into normalcy bias. And they are right to because thats what people do. Just look at how viciously anyone that breaches the idea that Barry won’’t step down, gets attacked by ‘their own.

Sure it sounds nuts. Because normalcy bias programmed the public to believe since it can’t happen here that such things are crazy.

But sometimes a cigar really is the cigar it looks like and sometimes the guy with the sammich board and wild sounding proclamations is the guy with the right answer.


11 posted on 11/04/2015 12:50:06 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Embrace Existential Cage Theory. Solutions start at home.)
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To: Torcert; Norm Lenhart

If Hillary were to win, Obama essentially gets a third term.


12 posted on 11/04/2015 12:50:07 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Torcert; Travis McGee
It would seem like there is no other explanation than they want to create a crisis to hold onto power.

You have to read Matt Bracken's book. It starts off with what you just suggested....

13 posted on 11/04/2015 12:50:18 PM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panel)
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To: Torcert

If ever again Americans are foolish enough to give them Congress and the White House at the same time, gun control legislation is coming.


14 posted on 11/04/2015 12:54:18 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Travis McGee

Won’t be the first co-presidency she was involved with.

The Democrat Party succeeded because it is a suicide pact writ large. They KNOW they hang together or separately. Travis/Matt nailed it with his story about “What I saw at the Coup” which every freeper should read. Now.

https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/11/what-i-saw-at-the-coup/


15 posted on 11/04/2015 12:54:29 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Embrace Existential Cage Theory. Solutions start at home.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

It could be that they are way out of touch - witness their wonderment at the polls being dead wrong in some recent elections.

They could be falling for their own BS, and they think that Confiscation is somehow inevitable.


16 posted on 11/04/2015 12:55:00 PM PST by Torcert (Che Guevara is DEAD - Get Over it!)
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To: Norm Lenhart; Travis McGee; All

I read it long ago, and saved it.

Others?

READ it!


17 posted on 11/04/2015 12:56:56 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Matt is a prophet. Period.


18 posted on 11/04/2015 12:58:22 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Embrace Existential Cage Theory. Solutions start at home.)
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To: Torcert

Leftists are dumb.

Thank God.


19 posted on 11/04/2015 12:59:27 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Impy

I could easily envision Hillary or Obama trying to dictate confiscation - given the right crisis.


20 posted on 11/04/2015 1:07:37 PM PST by Torcert (Che Guevara is DEAD - Get Over it!)
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