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Evolutionists retreating from the arena of science
CMI ^ | December 1, 2009 | Dave Woetzel

Posted on 12/03/2009 8:35:52 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

Evolutionists retreating from the arena of science

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Today, the Darwinian scientific consensus persists within almost every large university and governmental institution. But around the middle of the 20th century an interesting new trend emerged and has since become increasingly established. Evolutionary theorists have been forced, step by step, to steadily retreat from the evidence in the field. Some of the evidences mentioned earlier in this article were demonstrated to be frauds and hoaxes. Other discoveries have been a blow to the straightforward expectations and predictions of evolutionists. Increasingly, they have been forced to tack ad hoc mechanisms onto Darwin’s theory to accomodate the evidence. Their retreat to unfalsifiable positions is now evident in every arena where they once triumphed. Let us examine how Darwinian theorists have moved from concrete predictions and scientifically observable supporting evidences to metaphysical positions in several key fields of research...

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1 posted on 12/03/2009 8:35:53 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Reposted with the correct link...sorry about that—GGG


2 posted on 12/03/2009 8:37:07 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

If you’re gonna keep posting your creationist propaganda, please provide back-up proof from an unbiased outlet.

Every one of your articles comes from the Creation Research Institute or some some similar one-sided source.

Never is there independent confirmation from unbiased sources. And CRI, et al, usually follow the same approach as the Climate-Gate “scientists”, dismissing any evidence that contradicts “creationism” (like “radiocarbon dating is all a conspiracy”). Give us a break.

If you want to ignore the overwhelming evidence in support of the evolution theory, fine. But don’t pretend you’re following any sort of scientific approach.

And supporting evolution has NOTHING to do with quashing religious freedoms.


3 posted on 12/03/2009 8:50:30 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative
And supporting evolution has NOTHING to do with quashing religious freedoms.

I agree with this statement.
4 posted on 12/03/2009 8:55:57 AM PST by IronKros (Science is the great antidote to the poison of enthusiasm and superstition. ~Adam Smith, The Wealth)
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To: GodGunsGuts
So.. tell us all if you also believe that a seven headed beast with 10 horns will rise from the ocean to destroy the earth... It is ‘literal’ after all.... isn’t it?
5 posted on 12/03/2009 9:00:37 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: canuck_conservative

If you don’t like it; you don’t have to read it. You post adds nothing whatsoever to anything. I can’t imagine why those who’ve bought into the Evolution propaganda would even care to look at something like this.


6 posted on 12/03/2009 9:01:17 AM PST by glide625
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To: canuck_conservative
Because their faith is far too weak to believe that God’s vision of the universe is much larger and more complex then their small, petty, and bigoted minds.
7 posted on 12/03/2009 9:01:49 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: canuck_conservative

What would you consider an unbiased outlet?


8 posted on 12/03/2009 9:02:39 AM PST by smallelmike
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To: GodGunsGuts

You know, GGG, the evos who want this subject isolated to the religion section may have a point. Darwinism is increasingly being exposed as a religion.


9 posted on 12/03/2009 9:02:49 AM PST by rae4palin
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To: canuck_conservative
And supporting evolution has NOTHING to do with quashing religious freedoms.

Sure it does. From eradicating it from public schools to demanding that any non-pro-evolution thread on FR be placed in the Religion Forum because every attack on the ToE is a *religious* attack, the whole MO of evolutionists is an attack on religion.

Evolution is the best weapon the atheists have come across in their assault on religion and it has been widely and gleefully used even by those who claim religious beliefs.

It's only the religious beliefs that support evolution that are acceptable to many. Religious beliefs that accept creation are mocked, ridiculed, maligned, and regulated.

You need to get with the program.

10 posted on 12/03/2009 9:04:03 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: canuck_conservative
If you’re gonna keep posting your creationist propaganda, please provide back-up proof from an unbiased outlet.

Every article at the links he provides cites many sources for its information. They are well referenced articles. But if you've never bothered to read them, of course you wouldn't know that.

Every one of your articles comes from the Creation Research Institute or some some similar one-sided source.

And TalkOrigins is what? Not biased? Not one-sided? Evos don't provide unbiased sources because there's no dissent allowed. Unbiased evo sources just don't exist.

11 posted on 12/03/2009 9:07:05 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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"If you want to ignore the overwhelming evidence in support of the evolution theory, fine"

And that 'evidence' would be? - Exactly, there isn't a shred of physical evidence; just plaster carvings that illustrate what has been imagined out of minute fragments of bone and teeth, and sketches of imagined creatures that never existed, or fraudulent conceptions of embryonic development.

If there were even one single piece of physical evidence, you can be sure that its photo would be plastered by law on every billboard on Earth.

12 posted on 12/03/2009 9:08:02 AM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: glide625

Only to attack religious thought.

It’s the ONLY thing they bring anymore.


13 posted on 12/03/2009 9:08:45 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

So.. what’s your take on “SpongeBob Antichrist” (post 5)

You seem so stuck on the literal interpretation of things...


14 posted on 12/03/2009 9:11:32 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: canuck_conservative
"Evolutionary theorists have been forced, step by step, to steadily retreat from the evidence in the field."

No, they haven't.

"Increasingly, they have been forced to tack ad hoc mechanisms onto Darwin’s theory to accomodate (sic) the evidence."

No, they haven't.

Evolution as the origin of species hasn't been defeated.

Natural selection as the driving force of evolution hasn't been defeated either.

As more information comes in from the fields of geology, paleontology, and biology, the mechanisms of speciation become clearer, but the basic theory hasn't been challenged in any factual, logical way. Besides, "evidence" is a non-count noun. I think the writer meant examples or research.

15 posted on 12/03/2009 9:13:37 AM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: canuck_conservative

LOL...What would you consider an “unbiased source”?


16 posted on 12/03/2009 9:17:08 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I agree that evolutionists and creationists have different world views. I agree with the creationist world view: man was created special by God.

But I do not believe that evolutionists will continue to retreat from the hard sciences. Until a new idea or paradigm emerges, what is there to test? How do you know what to look for?

To think that God will stand naked before believer and unbeliever alike is foolishness. God’s works remain hidden, a mystery. What need is there for faith when belief is backed up by science?

To claim victory when science stumbles is to be ignorant. Science will emerge with another idea, another hypothesis. Of course the next idea will be wrong also. Just as it will be wrong when creationists again claim victory.

Of course God did it, but what disguise did he use? Why does gravity work? Because God makes it so. How does that help us understand gravity? God created a rational world. It is a world we can understand.

If we could use the earth below to scientifically determine the age of the world, then we could study the sky above to determine the age of the universe. But since we can see light that is millions of years old, why would we believe we could study anything in the universe and find the fingerprints of God?


17 posted on 12/03/2009 9:20:21 AM PST by Tao Yin
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To: metmom

And we’ve recently discovered another “religious” truth haven’t we; that the Global Warming myth is all part and parcel of, if not in itself, a religious philosophy of it’s own.


18 posted on 12/03/2009 9:23:31 AM PST by glide625
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To: rae4palin

It is a religion. And it is a religion that requires absolute blind faith in the ability of mindless natural processes to create super-sophisticated technology that far surpasses human creative capacities. For some reason, some people have a need to believe that “change over time” explains that which can only be explained by a vastly superior intelligence.


19 posted on 12/03/2009 9:27:54 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: glide625

No.. ‘creationism’ is a cult sect that exists outside of true Christianity, with a bunch of ignorants happily skipping straight down the road to hell.

AGW has nothing to do with it.


20 posted on 12/03/2009 9:29:02 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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