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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: BykrBayb
My bad...and my sincere apologies. I did respond to you and was amiss in saying otherwise.

I support the effort to have nothing to do with, and not put up with the Rudy nomination. He is not conservative, and, IMHO, does not support the fundamental, core, moral values that define us as a free, God-fearing nation.

At the same time, as I have said, I am also saddened to see some of the long time people whom I have worked with against other liberals and socailistic issues lost from FR.

That's my point...whatever led to their leaving or banning, and stating up front and forthrightly that my opposition to Rudy is non-negotiable and fundamental, I will also not forget and pretend that these other individuals other efforts never happened...because they did.

Now...forward to getting a Hunter or Thompson on the ticket.

9,701 posted on 04/25/2007 4:53:06 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Finger Monkey
This site is dying an ugly death, and it makes me very sad.

Nonsense.

This isn't the first time we've had in-house battles.

It will pass.

9,702 posted on 04/25/2007 4:53:25 PM PDT by airborne (Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim with all due respect...the Phelps Gang comment seemed to be a label on the several members in this thread serving as a posse for you to hunt and gather those deemed undesireable.

And, they're very efficient it would seem. ;^)

9,703 posted on 04/25/2007 4:53:27 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: American Quilter
"No, indeed, I didn’t discover the thread until Monday morning,"

I just found it today! Good grief... 9659+ posts and I'm the last one to know. So are the Rudybots all gone?

9,704 posted on 04/25/2007 4:53:30 PM PDT by bluecollarman (Rudys not really a conservative now, he's just a liberal in drag, married to a puppy killer.)
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To: Moose4

“It’s retrenching itself, and preparing for the battle of the next year and a half.”

That’s right! And the left was and is NOT prepared for this. We have the initiative and we will not give it up!


9,705 posted on 04/25/2007 4:53:32 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Doohickey
WHOO HOOOO!!!

Thank you, Doohickey !!!

9,706 posted on 04/25/2007 4:53:54 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: T'wit

I am fully aware you are trying your best to get me banned.


9,707 posted on 04/25/2007 4:54:11 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: RobFromGa

“I am unhappy to see what this thread has degenerated into”

You’ve said this same thing in a variety of ways about 8 times in 3-4 hours or less.

If you don’t like the thread, started by the owner, get the freak out.


9,708 posted on 04/25/2007 4:54:16 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell'm I'm comin - and I'm bringin Hell with me")
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To: Brad's Gramma; Jim Robinson
I'm sending an extra 50.00 tonight (hubby will take care of it)

..cause I'm extra proud to belong to Free Republic!

9,709 posted on 04/25/2007 4:54:34 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: papasmurf; Jim Robinson
I think that using the term "swiftboating" takes away from the magificent work the Swift Boat Vets did for all of us. It sorta puts it in a negative way, ya' know?

I did not use that term to describe this, Jim Rob did.

I do understand your point, and maybe we should come up with another name for what we are doing.

I really don't think its negative towards those heros, the Swiftboat vets who saved our nation from a treasonist creep like John Kerry. It might even be seen as a compliment, and will make history remember what they did.

Got any ideas?
9,710 posted on 04/25/2007 4:54:37 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: papasmurf

Swiftboat vetting saved us from the threat of one liberal activist president and could work to save us from the threat of another. Too bad so many Republicans are so blinded by fear that they’re willing to be led meekly off like sheep to the slaughter. RIP GOP.


9,711 posted on 04/25/2007 4:55:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: EternalVigilance
Actually, this site is showing more life than it has in years.

I agree. Getting rid of the liberals, and the hand-wringers, is a pruning of infection and dead wood from an otherwise flourishing tree.

9,712 posted on 04/25/2007 4:55:39 PM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: ElkGroveDan; Jim Robinson; calcowgirl; kellynla; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; ...
"Whoa...all this RINO banning is starting to hurt the wallet."

It certainly is. I can attest to that since you've already dragged me along with you to the tune of $90 total. By the way, we don't really know that all of the zots were bans or merely suspensions. With the exception of MiaT, I'm quite pleased to see the rest of them gone (assuming they were banned and not merely slapped on the wrist with a short suspension).

"OK if FO was worth $50, then this pain-in-the-rear goof is good for $20."

Concur completely, and I'll be pleased to match you again IF it's a ban rather than a suspension.

9,713 posted on 04/25/2007 4:55:54 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: cgk

They don’t need the mass freepmails anymore, now they just coordinate everything from their closed Wide Awakes thread.


9,714 posted on 04/25/2007 4:55:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Moose4

—FR’s not dying. It’s retrenching itself, and preparing for the battle of the next year and a half. It’ll be ugly, and it’ll be hard. But it’s necessary.-—

That’s exactly what’s up.


9,715 posted on 04/25/2007 4:55:59 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: T'wit
This is by far the best conservative news forum anywhere.

Most are little more than lame blogs or glorified chat rooms.

Here I can get all my news and honest conservative debate of same.

9,716 posted on 04/25/2007 4:56:06 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: CindyDawg

Thanks Cindy, yes it is a somewhat sad thread, I guess depending upon ones perspective.


9,717 posted on 04/25/2007 4:56:13 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Finger Monkey
FR is not dying in the least. People have said and thought that before during similar episodes.

JR is just defining in crystal clarity his position on this issue regarding Rudy.

Some do not like that position, some do not like how he went about it. But it is his site, and that clear definition is, IMHO, actually a good thing and something needed amongst the conservative base to put their collective foot down in abject opposition to a Rudy nomination.

But that is simple my opinion.

9,718 posted on 04/25/2007 4:56:31 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: indylindy
If you care, you might show it.

I am. And your statements about me are all still totally wrong.

9,719 posted on 04/25/2007 4:56:41 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: bluecollarman
So are the Rudybots all gone?

I hope not.

Is recess over yet ?


9,720 posted on 04/25/2007 4:57:00 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (Waiting for Samson)
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