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The future of the Republican Party - Poll Question.
cryptical

Posted on 05/10/2006 10:29:57 AM PDT by cryptical

I noticed the latest poll question, which got me to thinking...

A time for choosing: It appears that a significant number of our members are so disgusted with the GOP's failure to secure our borders against illegal aliens that they are willing to risk all by voting them out of office, even if it means Pelosi, Reid, Hillary, et al, are allowed to take charge. Is this the best course of action or should we be working harder than ever to hold the line and actually try to make a difference by getting more constitutionally-minded conservatives elected? Are you willing to give it all up or are you more determined than ever to keep the Marxists out of power?

This understates the problem, and offers a false choice as a solution IMO.

It's not just the failure to secure our borders, it's the growing government by leaps and bounds, spending like a drunken sailor on shore leave, rewarding RINOs with leadership positions, and in general not advancing a conservative agenda after they have been given all three branches of government on a silver platter.

The false choice comes from the notion that we can hold our noses and vote for the RINOs that the RNC and the state parties put up, and then "work harder" to get more constitutional-minded candidates elected.

If we keep accepting the RINOs that are put up, there's no reason for the Republican Party to change.

I've begun to feel like an enabler for the majority-addicted Republican Party. They keep on promising change, but it's always tomorrow.

Well folks, tomorrow is here. I'm pledging not to vote for any RINOs, and if that means that a Democrat gets elected I'll consider myself to have worked for change in the party.


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1 posted on 05/10/2006 10:29:59 AM PDT by cryptical
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To: cryptical

Better to be treated badly by your enemies than by family. In this case family has become the enemy.


2 posted on 05/10/2006 10:31:17 AM PDT by The Shootist
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To: The Shootist

Another perspective.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1612942/posts


3 posted on 05/10/2006 10:31:56 AM PDT by mnehring (http://abaraxas.blogspot.com/)
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To: cryptical
OBEY
4 posted on 05/10/2006 10:32:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: mnehrling

You're nothing to me now Fredo


5 posted on 05/10/2006 10:32:25 AM PDT by The Shootist
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To: cryptical
Well folks, tomorrow is here. I'm pledging not to vote for any RINOs, and if that means that a Democrat gets elected I'll consider myself to have worked for change in the party.

Just wondering...did you vote for Ross Perot, Bill Clinton, George Bush or someone else in 92?

6 posted on 05/10/2006 10:32:36 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: cryptical

So, you felt the need to post a vanity to tell everyone of your decision, instead of simply choosing the response to the poll. Says a lot about your need for attention.


7 posted on 05/10/2006 10:33:49 AM PDT by BreitbartSentMe (Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)
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To: The Shootist

Better to give Repubs the message in 2006 that we're unhappy with their policies then risk getting Hillary in 2008. Maybe if enough of the Repubs are thrown out or scared in the mid-terms, they'll wake up for 2008. I hope.


8 posted on 05/10/2006 10:35:06 AM PDT by fritzthecat (I only regret my economies)
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To: The Shootist

That is an interesting reaction in posting a counterpoint by the owner of this site.


9 posted on 05/10/2006 10:36:03 AM PDT by mnehring (http://abaraxas.blogspot.com/)
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To: The Shootist

Vote in the socialists, and you get what you deserve. And, I expect no complaints from these conservatives when the nation goes down the dumper after '06 and '08.


10 posted on 05/10/2006 10:36:11 AM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: cryptical

That's the quandry alright. It must be how a lot of african-Americans feel about the dems -- holding their noses and voting all these years, mostly for nothing. As for me, if the right candidate (and I mean right = conservative) isn't on the ballot in 08, I won't vote for a presidential candidate. I'm absolutely prepared to bail on this party at the national level. IF they don't put forth a conservative, then only a loss will force them to change.


11 posted on 05/10/2006 10:37:38 AM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: Kenny Bunkport

I'll be voting conservative. What that means to the GOP is up to them.


12 posted on 05/10/2006 10:38:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: gotribe

What about a 50% conservative versus a 100% liberal?


13 posted on 05/10/2006 10:38:30 AM PDT by mnehring (http://abaraxas.blogspot.com/)
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To: fritzthecat
Better to give Repubs the message in 2006 that we're unhappy with their policies then risk getting Hillary in 2008. Maybe if enough of the Repubs are thrown out or scared in the mid-terms, they'll wake up for 2008. I hope

Well here's a scenario for you. The Dems take the house in 2006 and start impeachment hearings. Things get real nasty and the general public is extremely turned off of politics - their all alike, there's no difference between the parties, etc. When 2008 rolls around we get a bunch of middle of the road moderates who promise to change the tone in Washington and make nice, nice. It doesn't sound like a fertile breeding ground for a "real conservative" to me.

14 posted on 05/10/2006 10:38:40 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: cryptical
Thanks for your post and yes its a tough issue at best...

I think I am going to take a deep breath, and hold my nose to avoid the putrid stench of the current Republican party and vote for them. Sometimes I too get so disgusted and angry I feel like you do but I am going to go the pragmatic route and still be loyal the Pubs. The main driver is the RATS just scare me much much worse...

But it sure is a suck ass lineup when you look at both parties!! LOL!!

I saw the Bushbots jumped you never mind them they can't stand to talk issues they just insulting and get real shreaky and shrill like the liberals.....;-)

15 posted on 05/10/2006 10:40:10 AM PDT by democrats_nightmare
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To: cryptical

I look at these things from a spiritual perspective. I figure that if the hard-left Democrats take congress this year, and Hillary gets elected in '08, it will be because God has finally run out of patience with our society, and we are due for a season of judgment. If God uses hardnosed, pinheaded "conservatives" to bring that judgment, so be it. Whether we live and prosper, or dwindle and die as a nation, blessed be the Lord. (I pray for prosperity and life, but maybe America is in need of some hard times.)


16 posted on 05/10/2006 10:40:45 AM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: cripplecreek
I'll be voting conservative. What that means to the GOP is up to them.

I'll be voting the most conservative major party candidate. I'm not going to throw away my vote to a third party candidate, even if I like what they say.

17 posted on 05/10/2006 10:41:39 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: cripplecreek

I'm voting for what's best for America, considering the realistic choices we have in the election.


18 posted on 05/10/2006 10:42:02 AM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: fritzthecat
Re: 06 elections:

The problem is largely the Senate. The Congress is on the right side of just about everything but spending. I think I saw that Dewine just won a primary? That's a darn shame. It would take a powerful and vocal conservative to direct the fight to get rid of selected Rinos while maintaining our majority.

Unfortunately without another conservative leader, the RNC knows that we only have two choices - part time status quo leftists or full time socialist leftists.

19 posted on 05/10/2006 10:42:39 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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To: cryptical

Well said.

Of course, there are quite a few here who shout about the collective number of "protest" or third party votes being less than one percent...............

So, it could be argued that your vote really doesn't carry much weight.

It is far more important to have cast your vote for a candidate you believe will actually represent your position in government, than to vote for a party blindly.


20 posted on 05/10/2006 10:43:46 AM PDT by WhiteGuy ("Every Generation needs a new revolution" - Jefferson)
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