Posted on 05/10/2006 10:29:57 AM PDT by cryptical
So you're going to remain obedient.
I think we need to be willing to vote for candidates who are less-than-ideal, because the results of the recent elections, and the results of polling since 2004, indicate that conservatives don't make up the majority of the electorate. If the GOP can't appeal to the critical middle, they're dead, and no conservative third-party is ever going to become dominant in this country.
Hard to believe that Repubs have not gotten the message already. They just have not acted upon it.
Of course I agree with this approach. I've seen too many third party candidates (Anderson, Perot, Nader) who just ended up being a joke and hurting the actual cause that people who voted for them supported.
I don't think it is being "obedient". I have a free mind and I choose to vote for whom I think will best represent my views in that office. I would rather get a little something than absolutely nothing.
Couldn't have said it better.
You're right. Not enough realistic, clear-thinking, reality-based, intelligent people to make up a majority-conservative electorate. Doubt there will ever be enough.
Right. I wonder how many Perot voters now regret that their decision handed Bill Clinton the White House for 8 years. They may not have supported all of the policies and decisions of the first President Bush, but I am willing to bet they would have preferred him to Clinton.
The same can be said of the liberals that voted for Nader in 2000.
RINOs ARE socialists..
Even more interesting is your assumption that we're all supposed to march lock step with the owner of the site just because he states how he thinks change should be affected in the GOP.
Change does not always come incrementally. Sometime it has to show up like a tornado to get the powers to be to wake up to reality.
A large number of conservatives have made their displeasure with the party and it's current direction known in no uncertain terms.
What the GOP does with that information is up to them. If they lose in November it's because they chose to lose and the fault will lie completely with them.
They have had ample warning.
Some will argue that by voting Clinton into office that helped the Republicans take the House in 94. I don't quite buy that and even if it were the case I think the Clintons did far more damage than the good of taking the House.
That's the same thing that I'm starting to think. The Republican base is getting more and more frustrated with their ignorance in fixing the border, spending and oil problems. And yet, Washington just turns and looks the other way!
Hate to say it but if it takes having to live with 2 years of Dem' controlled congress to fix this party by 2008...I would be in favor. I know this would be terrible but I think that if this were to happen maybe then the Repubs would WAKE UP. A growing portion of the base has had it with the pandering and inactivity that's going on in Washington.
Dewine won the primary but 30% of the registered Republicans who voted in the primary did not vote for him.
That figure will be telling not only in Ohio in November but across the country.
Do you think he can win in Ohio without that 30%?
I certainly don't.
I will rephrase. IF I think a third party candidate has a legitimate shot at winning and best espouses my views, then I would vote for that person. However, viability is my first concern.
[Well folks, tomorrow is here. I'm pledging not to vote for any RINOs, and if that means that a Democrat gets elected I'll consider myself to have worked for change (of power).]
Threads like this make it easy to spot the needy and spoiled little brats. They are great team players as long as they get their way 100% of the time.
Even more interesting is your assumption that that was my assumption. What in the words, 'Another perspective.' along with a URL makes you assume what my assumption is.
Sometimes it is good to just throw all the cards on the table and debate the issue instead of assuming.
In the case of Dewine, McCain, and that creep from PA who heads the judiciary committe, we're better off with Dems, IMO, but can we risk losing the majority? Nope, the leftists will run away from Iraq and we'll be fighting off suicide bombers in the 7-11's with plastic forks if they ever get their power back. sad but true.
That's my point: one doesn't reward bad behavior and voting for the Repubs in 2006 is exactly that. That's no way to get the bad behavior changed. (Of course, the Dems are far worse and if (when) the Dems get back in power, they'll make an absolute mess of everything.)
Sadly, that's perhaps the only way to get the attention of those enthralled with American Idol-TomKat-Charlie Sheen's Mental State-Oprah. Sometimes nothing works as an attention getter except a 2 x 4 upside the head. And that's what'll happen when the Dems take over.
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