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London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals...
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Posted on 01/16/2005 12:47:07 PM PST by IGBT

London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals, according to a new study by British scientists.

Researchers at the John Radcliffe Institute of Molecular Medicine in Oxford were quoted by The Times as saying the so-called "ginger gene" which gives people red hair, fair skin and freckles could be up to 100 000 years old.

They claim that their discovery points to the gene having originated in Neanderthal man who lived in Europe for 200 000 years before Homo sapien settlers, the ancestors of modern man, arrived from Africa about 40 000 years ago.

Rosalind Harding, the research team leader, told The Times: "The gene is certainly older than 50 000 years and it could be as old as 100 000 years.

"An explanation is that it comes from Neanderthals." It is estimated that at least 10 percent of Scots have red hair and a further 40 percent carry the gene responsible, which could account for their once fearsome reputation as fighters.

Neanderthals have been characterised as migrant hunters and violent cannibals who probably ate most of their meat raw. They were taller and stockier than Homo sapiens, but with shorter limbs, bigger faces and noses, receding chins and low foreheads.

The two species overlapped for a period of time and the Oxford research appears to suggests that they must have successfully interbred for the "ginger gene" to survive. Neanderthals became extinct about 28 000 years ago, the last dying out in southern Spain and southwest France. - Sapa-DPA


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To: ValerieUSA

I haven't had Virginia Mayo since that time I stayed in Alexandria. [rimshot!]


321 posted on 01/17/2005 9:27:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
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To: ValerieUSA

That one is a big fave. Lot of good Victorian-era painters, many of them painting mythological scenes, or using ancient history (Alma-Tadema being the first example which comes to mind).


322 posted on 01/17/2005 9:30:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
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To: SunkenCiv

old-fashioned Kidman
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323 posted on 01/17/2005 9:37:30 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA

I'm not a Nicole Kidman fan -- her eyes look creepy -- but that photo is actually quite nice.

Disclaimer #1: I find I have a folder, ahem, of Nicole Kidman on the hard drive

Disclaimer #2: I'd probably, y'know, date her if opportunity arose.

Disclaimer #3: Opportunity ain't gonna arise. ;')


324 posted on 01/17/2005 10:16:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
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To: SunkenCiv

Such are the limitations of life in Michigan.


325 posted on 01/17/2005 11:15:14 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA

:') yeah, that's pretty much a limitation everywhere I think. ;')


326 posted on 01/17/2005 11:24:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
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To: SunkenCiv

Poor Nicole.......


327 posted on 01/18/2005 2:57:29 AM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA

Yeah, her loss. ;')


328 posted on 01/18/2005 8:23:09 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
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To: TheLionessRN

>>I am a redhead of Scottish decent and I am not comfortable with the idea that a British scientist has attributed red hair to Neanderthals. It smacks of a slur, for some reason.<<

That is interesting. My wife is a redhead and I took it as a compliment as I was reading the article.

Why? Because Neanderthals had bigger brains.


329 posted on 01/18/2005 8:28:57 AM PST by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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To: IGBT
They claim that their discovery points to the gene having originated in Neanderthal man who lived in Europe for 200 000 years before Homo sapien settlers, the ancestors of modern man, arrived from Africa about 40 000 years ago.

Since they presumably believe in evolution why wouldn't the red hair gene evolve independently in humans as it did in neanderthals (democrats). There is nothing in theory or fact that demands inheritance from neanderthals to humans.

330 posted on 01/19/2005 6:03:22 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: IGBT

Clairol does not a Neanderthal make.


331 posted on 01/19/2005 6:11:26 AM PST by DaGman
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To: TheLionessRN
I am a redhead of Scottish decent and I am not comfortable with the idea that a British scientist has attributed red hair to Neanderthals. It smacks of a slur, for some reason.

Don't redheads have short tempers?

332 posted on 01/19/2005 6:16:13 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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not a dyke after all:

Gillian Anderson Gets Married

333 posted on 01/19/2005 11:23:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
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To: TASMANIANRED

I handled the redhead quite well, and with a very fine hand - one that, well, I cannot say here.


334 posted on 01/20/2005 4:44:47 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: TASMANIANRED; Canticle_of_Deborah
Tasmanianred: If you weren't a FReeper, I'd be awfully mad at you for Assuming something about me and a relationship you know absolutly nothing about from a quick post.

Please don't assume - it was wrong. Thank you.

335 posted on 01/20/2005 4:51:15 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001; TASMANIANRED

I think TR was just joking with you. I sincerely doubt she meant any offense.

I did not either, fwiw.


336 posted on 01/20/2005 7:09:23 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Hey Deborah,

Check this out.

Thanks again.


337 posted on 01/20/2005 8:48:14 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Does that come with a diagnostic code? :-D


338 posted on 01/20/2005 9:25:43 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Are you in the medicl field as well?


339 posted on 01/20/2005 11:28:07 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Yes, I'm a RN. Aren't you too?


340 posted on 01/21/2005 12:56:10 AM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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