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London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals...
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Posted on 01/16/2005 12:47:07 PM PST by IGBT

London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals, according to a new study by British scientists.

Researchers at the John Radcliffe Institute of Molecular Medicine in Oxford were quoted by The Times as saying the so-called "ginger gene" which gives people red hair, fair skin and freckles could be up to 100 000 years old.

They claim that their discovery points to the gene having originated in Neanderthal man who lived in Europe for 200 000 years before Homo sapien settlers, the ancestors of modern man, arrived from Africa about 40 000 years ago.

Rosalind Harding, the research team leader, told The Times: "The gene is certainly older than 50 000 years and it could be as old as 100 000 years.

"An explanation is that it comes from Neanderthals." It is estimated that at least 10 percent of Scots have red hair and a further 40 percent carry the gene responsible, which could account for their once fearsome reputation as fighters.

Neanderthals have been characterised as migrant hunters and violent cannibals who probably ate most of their meat raw. They were taller and stockier than Homo sapiens, but with shorter limbs, bigger faces and noses, receding chins and low foreheads.

The two species overlapped for a period of time and the Oxford research appears to suggests that they must have successfully interbred for the "ginger gene" to survive. Neanderthals became extinct about 28 000 years ago, the last dying out in southern Spain and southwest France. - Sapa-DPA


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To: martin_fierro

The one on the right is much better looking.


301 posted on 01/17/2005 12:48:11 PM PST by .45MAN ("He" is with us.)
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To: chemical_boy

again the one on the right is better looking.....


302 posted on 01/17/2005 12:49:00 PM PST by .45MAN ("He" is with us.)
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To: SunkenCiv

a large print of "Rose" is in my room.


303 posted on 01/17/2005 12:57:13 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: IGBT
My lovely redheaded wife is further from the Neanderthal than I, her more Germanic husband.

I certainly hope my daughters hair keeps trending red.

304 posted on 01/17/2005 12:57:36 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (Well.... I'll be)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Which part?

:-D

305 posted on 01/17/2005 2:28:38 PM PST by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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To: Lady Jag
There are a lot of crafty people around here.

I had to read that about five times before I realized it did not say, " There are a lot of crazy people around here." ROFL

306 posted on 01/17/2005 3:19:38 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Have sliderule, will calculate.)
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To: Petruchio
Which part?

That's a really good question....... Hmmmmmmmmmm.....
;-p

307 posted on 01/17/2005 3:54:56 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: Professional Engineer

<>I had to read that about five times before I realized it did not say, " There are a lot of crazy people around here." ROFL
</P>That IS what it said - before I went over it with my Bic.


308 posted on 01/17/2005 4:32:14 PM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and unlimited power)
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To: Professional Engineer
I had to read that about five times before I realized it did not say, " There are a lot of crazy people around here." ROFL

That IS what it said - before I went over it with my Bic.

309 posted on 01/17/2005 4:33:11 PM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and unlimited power)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Who is the keeper of the list of the Red Haired League. I need to be there too.

Do I need to send evidence for admission.


310 posted on 01/17/2005 4:55:48 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (pun my typo if you dare.)
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To: TASMANIANRED
Do I need to send evidence for admission.

lol

311 posted on 01/17/2005 5:25:18 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Did you see my post to you about redheads?


312 posted on 01/17/2005 6:26:04 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: IGBT

..ok..I'm comming out of the closet here..I'm a Neanderthal too..both parents from Ireland..lots of red and black hair in the family. muwhahah :)


313 posted on 01/17/2005 6:31:11 PM PST by IGBT
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To: Pyro7480

Yes, and may I compliment you on your wonderful taste? ;-)


314 posted on 01/17/2005 6:48:38 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: IGBT

Is this about Prince Harry?


315 posted on 01/17/2005 6:52:06 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

LOL! ;-) My piano teacher in my pre-teen years was also a redhead, but I never had a crush on her. These days, there are two young redheaded women on the 7th floor of my building at work, and I'm friendly with both. I guess I can call it the "redheads' floor," due to the fact the concentration is higher than average there. ;-) At the same time, I can only think of two men that I've met who had red hair. Both were in my Boy Scout troop. I think it's more common with women.


316 posted on 01/17/2005 7:03:07 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

I had hair almost down to my waist when I was 18. I got it all cut off and kept a ringlet.

I got DNA if it is required.

You thought I was going to get bawdy, didn't you.


317 posted on 01/17/2005 8:25:59 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (pun my typo if you dare.)
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To: Palladin

*LOL* Everything in London is about Prince Harry.


318 posted on 01/17/2005 8:27:19 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: SunkenCiv

Speaking of Danny Kaye (we were, weren't we?) his favorite co-star, Virginia Mayo, passed away.


319 posted on 01/17/2005 8:28:52 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: TASMANIANRED
You thought I was going to get bawdy, didn't you.

LOL

:-D

320 posted on 01/17/2005 9:08:32 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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