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Mysterious 'painted people' of Scotland are long gone, but their DNA lives on
Live Science ^ | April 27, 2023 | Kristina Killgrove

Posted on 09/04/2023 11:34:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

The general lack of sources about the Picts and their way of life has led to numerous assumptions over the centuries. In the eighth century, during the early medieval period, for example, historians such as the Venerable Bede thought that the Picts emigrated from areas around the Aegean Sea or Eastern Europe and that they traced descent matrilineally, through the mother's side...

In the newly published study, an international team of researchers extracted genetic information from eight human skeletons buried in two Pictish cemeteries — seven from Lundin Links and one from Balintore in modern-day Scotland...

The team was able to extract a nearly complete genome, or set of a person's genes, from one skeleton from each of the two cemeteries. Both genomes, when compared with those of other ancient and modern groups from the British Isles, "reveal a close genetic affinity to Iron Age populations from Britain," the researchers wrote in the study, but show differences as well...

From all seven Lundin Links skeletons, researchers were able to isolate mitochondrial DNA... allowing them to look into the assumption about matrilineal Picts. But none of the people whose mtDNA they analyzed shared immediate maternal ancestors, which means they "were unlikely to have been practicing matrilocality," according to the study.

The team also found that the Picts' genes persist in modern-day people who live in western Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and Northumbria (a medieval kingdom that now includes parts of northern England and southeastern Scotland), indicating that, even though their culture disappeared, their genes didn't...

It's a limitation that the study presents just two genomes from individuals in cemeteries 100 miles (160 kilometers) apart, Maldonado noted, but it's still a helpful step forward.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: balintore; dna; england; europe; genealogy; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; ireland; lundinlinks; mtdna; northumbria; picts; scotland; scotlandyet; thevikings; vikings; wales
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To: HighSierra5

My ancestors arrived in Kentucky around 1740, in chains. Jacobite Rebellion. Payback was a b!tch.

Scots today are a bunch of nancyboys. All the cool ones are here.


21 posted on 09/04/2023 4:42:09 PM PDT by waterhill (I Believe!)
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To: bigbob

U m ma gumma!

(Pictish for: ya beat me to it, ya bloddy bast@rd)


22 posted on 09/04/2023 4:53:04 PM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: Myrddin

Yup.


23 posted on 09/04/2023 4:54:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Bagpipes-related DNA... that does make sense.)
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To: jerod

Not sure how they come to their conclusions... But it’s pretty safe to say I’m half Irish and half Scottish... So there must be a Pict gene in there somewhere. Maybe that’s the 3%.

I got that test from Ancestry but now I’m not so sure about how accurate it is. I got a notice from them that my half-brother (same father) share 11% DNA. I don’t see how that can be, unless I’m not understanding how it works.


24 posted on 09/04/2023 5:06:53 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: rxh4n1

Does your father have a brother?

11% is the lower end of the first cousin range 8-18%... Your half brother should be matching at at about the 18% to 33% range.

My highest DNA match is 8%, and that’s a first cousin once removed... The daughter of one of my first cousins. I contacted her because she didn’t really fit in... When I checked ‘thru’ connections on Ancestry she came up as a fifth cousin on my father’s side of the family... Turns out she’s also the daughter of one of my moms nephews... And she was born out of wedlock.

We had a very cordial email conversation going one. Her father was dead, but he had couple of sisters who were still alive... I contacted them and they weren’t interested in making contact with her. Apparently they were aware of this woman, but they had no interest in meeting with her.

That comes under the ‘family secrets’ section of DNA... Sometimes, the family likes to keep their secrets... Secret.

My own father was born out of wedlock and I managed to find his mother (after she had already passed) whom he had never met, and then we connected to his first cousin who was very happy to meet with my dad... They met, exchanged info on my dad’s mom, my dad went to her grave, etc.

Me and my dad got lucky... His mother and her family make up a big piece of our DNA pie. My dad and I are from Canada and his mother lived out her life in the United States... It was all very nice for my dad’s first cousin to help us out. My dad passed in 2016 so it was also nice that he could at least know of, and about his mother before he died.

Sadly that isn’t always the case.


25 posted on 09/05/2023 5:55:46 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: jerod

Does your father have a brother?

Yes, two. My parents never told us we had three half-brothers. We were told they were our cousins. That’s under the family secrets. Our last surviving aunt spilled the beans after my parents passed away. It was only a secret to us; but it was on a paper genealogy compilation from many years ago that we never saw, So she confirmed it. I guess getting divorced wasn’t cool in 1943. Thanks very much for the informative reply.


26 posted on 09/05/2023 7:15:49 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: jerod

I am one percent English but not through rape...they actually came here in 18638...


27 posted on 09/06/2023 4:59:21 AM PDT by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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