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Human and ape ancestors arose in Europe, not in Africa, controversial study claims
Live Science ^ | late August 2023 | Charles Q. Choi

Posted on 09/02/2023 9:51:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

A newly described fossil suggests that the ancestor of humans and apes arose in Europe, not in Africa...

In the new study, the researchers analyzed a newly identified ape fossil from the 8.7 million-year-old site of Çorakyerler in central Anatolia. They dubbed the species Anadoluvius turkae. "Anadolu" is the modern Turkish word for Anatolia, and "turk" refers to Turkey.

The fossil suggests that A. turkae likely weighed about 110 to 130 pounds (50 to 60 kilograms), or about the weight of a large male chimpanzee.

Based on the fossils of other animals found alongside it — such as giraffes, warthogs, rhinos, antelope, zebras, elephants, porcupines and hyenas — as well as other geological evidence, the researchers suggest that the newfound ape lived in a dry forest, more like where the early humans in Africa may have dwelled, rather than in the forest settings of modern great apes. A. turkae's powerful jaws and large, thickly enameled teeth suggest that it may have dined on hard or tough foods such as roots, so A. turkae likely spent a great deal of time on the ground.

In the new study, the scientists focused on a well-preserved partial skull uncovered at the site in 2015. This fossil includes most of the facial structure and the front part of the braincase, the area where the brain sat — features that helped the team calculate evolutionary relationships...

The researchers suggest that A. turkae and other fossil apes from nearby areas, such as Ouranopithecus in Greece and Turkey and Graecopithecus in Bulgaria, formed a group of early hominines. This may, in turn, suggest that the earliest hominines arose in Europe and the eastern Mediterranean. Specifically, the team contends that ancient Balkan and Anatolian apes evolved from ancestors in Western and Central Europe.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: 300manyearsoflabor; anadoluviusturkae; ancientautopsies; fauxiantroll; fauxiantrolls; godsgravesglyphs; graecopithecus; noahsmalarkey; ouranopithecus; paleontology; youngearthdelusion; youngearthdelusions
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The newly identified ape and human ancestor, Anadoluvius turkae.
Image credit: Sevim-Erol, A., Begun, D.R., Sözer, Ç.S. et al., University of Toronto, EurekAlert
Image credit: Sevim-Erol, A., Begun, D.R., Sözer, Ç.S. et al., University of Toronto, EurekAlert

1 posted on 09/02/2023 9:51:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 09/02/2023 9:52:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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3 posted on 09/02/2023 9:58:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I love science of this kind, and suspected there would be broadening discoveries like this. Buy I regret people will needlessly politicize things.


4 posted on 09/02/2023 10:04:20 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SunkenCiv

Sheila Jackson-Lee most upset........


5 posted on 09/02/2023 10:06:22 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes lwa, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: doorgunner69; nickcarraway

Oh, like this last entry?


6 posted on 09/02/2023 10:21:12 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn)
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To: SunkenCiv

If you’re a believer in evolution this shouldn’t be a surprise. If life generates from hot, molten, mag-ma as these guys believe then multiple progentior species appearing at the same time as they become viable around multiple points in the world should be the norm. Or, more likely, that you had hundreds of different tribes and large families roaming the lands (much like the indians of North America) developing on their own for a buncha generations and then finding themselves again and cross breeding...

But I find it fascinating that the evolutionists will always adopt the Christian model of life but then replace it with “scientific theory” to co-opt it.


7 posted on 09/02/2023 10:22:09 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: SunkenCiv

Bookmark


8 posted on 09/02/2023 10:23:55 PM PDT by kelly4c
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To: Skywise

Indeed.


9 posted on 09/02/2023 10:24:31 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: SunkenCiv

Doesn’t matter where it began. But I assume that due to the harsh climate in Europe, that forced the Europeans to innovate and develop technology. That’s where we are today.


10 posted on 09/02/2023 10:26:10 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: SunkenCiv
the researchers analyzed a newly identified ape fossil from the 8.7 million-year-old site of Çorakyerler in central Anatolia.

This is Asia, not Europe. The Romans called this region "Asia."

11 posted on 09/02/2023 10:26:45 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman; SunkenCiv

Good point, Asia Minor.


12 posted on 09/02/2023 10:37:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SunkenCiv
The John T. Scopes Trial

Oh, the folks in Tennessee are as faithful as can be,
And they know the Bible teaches what is right.
They believe in God above and his great undying love,
And they know they are protected by his might.

Then to Dayton came a man with his new ideas, so grand,
And he said we came from monkeys long ago.
But in teaching his belief, Mr. Scopes found only grief,
For they would not let their old religion go.

You may find the new belief, it will only bring you grief.
For a house that's built on sand will surely fall.
And wherever you may turn, there's a lesson you will learn:
That the old religion's better, after all.

13 posted on 09/02/2023 10:55:23 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Skywise

Evolution is real, plain and simple. Also we know from genome sequencing that all life on earth evolved from one single organism and not multiple origins. That means on all the entire planet Earth there appeared only one lifeform from which all others came from, and when you consider the chances of that happening evolution itself is the proof of God.


14 posted on 09/02/2023 11:23:09 PM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

LUCA.


15 posted on 09/02/2023 11:35:09 PM PDT by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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To: SunkenCiv

It started in the garden of Eden.


16 posted on 09/03/2023 12:17:39 AM PDT by roving (👌⚓Deplorable Listless Vessel with Trumpitist who looks Trumpish)
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To: Skywise
If life generates from hot, molten, mag-ma as these guys believe

Although my degree is in Physics, I of course also took many university-level courses in Biology, Microbiology, etc. - and never heard anything about life generating from hot, molten magma. You are perhaps confusing this with something your cousin's hairdresser's nephew said about, e.g., hydrothermal vents.

Regards,

17 posted on 09/03/2023 12:32:32 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I do not think it is possible to pinpoint just where our ancestors came from. Africa just happened to have large dryer areas that preserved the bones better.

It could also be that aliens would drop off their pets on various continents and leave them here on earth and they became us.... : )


18 posted on 09/03/2023 12:37:07 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: alexander_busek

yes, yes, I’m sure you have a piece of paper that says other people certified you as super ‘de super smarty pants.

Strike One - you don’t seem to understand hyperbole.

Strike Two - you don’t seem to understand that, if you don’t believe in God, then the chemical ooze from which we all came from still comes from molten, hot, mag-ma... (a bit more than that but the same thing)

Strike Three - You’ve failed to understand your lack of understanding.

Personally.. I’d refuse to pay up that student loan you got on your degree. It wasn’t worth it.


19 posted on 09/03/2023 1:01:01 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: minnesota_bound

That too. There’s a great old sci-fi story called Inherit the Stars where man has assured himself of evolution and scientific development... until they discover an ancient astronaut’s body on the moon from 50,000 years past...


20 posted on 09/03/2023 1:05:51 AM PDT by Skywise
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