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Archaeologists puzzle over mystery woman in early Christian cemetery
National Geographic ^ | January 28, 2019 | Marjan Ziberna

Posted on 03/02/2019 12:02:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv

The most stunning artifact recovered beneath Gosposvetska Street was a transparent blue glass bowl found next to the woman’s body...

This exquisite drinking bowl could have been used in both regular daily life as well as for burial ceremonies, and an analysis of its chemical composition points to its manufacture somewhere in the eastern Mediterranean region. The grapevine decorations have their role in the Christian Eucharist and Communion, but have their origins in motifs associated with Dionysus, the pagan god of wine and ecstasy.

Archaeologists are also interested in how the woman’s tomb developed over time. It seems that possibly within a decade of her burial, her square chapel was demolished and a larger (30-by-40-foot) structure was built to enclose her tomb. Around the new structure and inside it, Emona’s Christian community began to practice a burial practice known as ad sanctos, in which the deceased are interred near the tombs of saints and other remains considered holy.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalgeographic.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: dionysus; emona; godsgravesglyphs; greek; ljubljana; romanempire; slovenia
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To: mrsmith

“Chattel soavery”...
A practise of long term. As opposed to “race slavery” which has no basis in history yet dominates US discussion of slavery.

The Ottoman Empire imported slaves from the “harvest of the steppes” to deepest Africa. And their economy was dependen on that.


No. Chattel slavery is just that - humans as chattel, disposable, interchangeable, unfit for any other use.

Before the Musslemen brought their invention of chattel slavery, slavery was a cultural position. One became a slave due to personal economics on a voluntary basis; one was captured in battle or on the losing side in a conflict; or other reasons. In all cases, slaves were well treated, fed, clothed, housed, loved and respected even as members of the owning family sometimes attaining fame in one category or another, or acquiring political power. They were not bought and sold.

“Race slavery” is a magical term conjured up by willfully ignorant racists on the left.

The Ottoman Empire was a muslim empire - Classical Western Civilization was totally different then what came after the muslim conquests as was Christianity. Western Civilization, prior to 620 AD, was a different place and nearly unrecognizable in 1500 AD

Classical Western Civilization and Classical Christianity is for the most part not taught in schools today so it is easy to forget either existed.

The period from the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Romans may cover a days’ worth of class time. Then the Renaissance is mentioned for another day or so, before moving on the the evils of colonialism, the French revolution. The American revolution is placed after the French one for reasons known only to “modern enlightened educators”. But it is highly denigrated because there were slaves and deserves to be destroyed.

Now you know as much as most millennials know about history, if they remember any of it.


21 posted on 03/02/2019 2:10:13 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

IDK.
Abraham had slaves.
It’s the oldest worker market ever.
Slaves out-numbered feremen for ages.


22 posted on 03/02/2019 2:41:01 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: SunkenCiv

True, and National Geographic is particularly skilled at hiding their URLs. In accordance with FR tradition, I did not follow the link until after posting, so I did not realize where you were. That site is a definite challenge.


23 posted on 03/02/2019 5:31:33 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: mrsmith

They also can’t decide if drinking from it will make you live forever or for a many years. Wishy washy.


24 posted on 03/02/2019 6:43:53 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting; Cast glass bowl with Greek not Latin inscriptions found in a slavic area once dominated by Rome.


25 posted on 03/02/2019 7:43:36 AM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record)
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To: mrsmith

The concept of slavery changed (the way it was thought of and practiced) after 650AD. No one is saying that slaves haven’t existed forever, just that how we see slaves today is colored by the image of slaves in US history books, but that image is NOT the historical norm.


26 posted on 03/02/2019 9:34:43 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: SunkenCiv

And the level of detail 1700 years ago, quite amazing


27 posted on 03/02/2019 11:35:52 AM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Pollster1
You're right though, listing source was the way I got started on it. The first try was "inspect" (this was in the Chrome browser) and it gave me nothin'. Had to copy and paste to an editor and really pound some nails through it.

28 posted on 03/02/2019 1:30:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...

29 posted on 03/02/2019 1:32:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SunkenCiv
You can also drag the image to a Google image search. That sent me back to NG but also to a blog https://archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2019/01/grave-of-important-woman-found-in-early.html#Zrblou2i3tD30XHo.97 with all the images directly linked:

Someone else on FR suggested that to me many years ago, and it has saved me time when the source hides their image location.

30 posted on 03/03/2019 4:32:23 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Pollster1
When I clicked on the image (either button) I got a "please respect copyrights" message, couldn't save the image or drag it to the desktop.

31 posted on 03/03/2019 7:00:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SunkenCiv

I saw just like it at Walmart, it was made in China.....


32 posted on 03/03/2019 7:03:54 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (ui)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting. I got the image address at the blog. They must have received complaints from NG. I understand their point, but I also see this as fair use when we excerpt enough that people can see whether it’s worth following the link. In the case of this article, that picture is essential to an excerpt.


33 posted on 03/03/2019 9:21:27 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Pollster1
If they audit their server traffic, they'll spot the graphical link in my post up there. :^(

34 posted on 03/03/2019 4:14:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SunkenCiv

Hopefully they’ll also spot the traffic to their web site that comes from here and call that a win.


35 posted on 03/03/2019 4:53:18 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Pollster1
They might, but their IT dep't probably blocks access to FR. :^) The upshot is, don't be surprised if the graphics have to be pulled by the mods.

36 posted on 03/03/2019 6:55:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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