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Genetic Adam and Eve did not live too far apart in time
NATURE ^ | 08/13/2013 | Ewen Callaway

Posted on 08/16/2013 11:27:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The Book of Genesis puts Adam and Eve together in the Garden of Eden, but geneticists’ version of the duo — the ancestors to whom the Y chromosomes and mitochondrial DNA of today’s humans can be traced — were thought to have lived tens of thousands of years apart. Now, two major studies of modern humans’ Y chromosomes suggest that ‘Y-chromosome Adam’ and ‘mitochondrial Eve’ may have lived around the same time after all.

When the overall population size does not change (as is likely to have happened for long periods of human history), men have, on average, just one son. In this case, evolutionary theory predicts that for any given man there is a high probability that his paternal line will eventually come to an end. All of his male descendants will then have inherited Y chromosomes from other men. In fact, it is highly probable that at some point in the past, all men except one possessed Y chromosomes that by now are extinct. All men living now, then, would have a Y chromosome descended from that one man — identified as Y-chromosome Adam. (The biblical reference is a bit of a misnomer because this Adam was by no means the only man alive at his time.)

Similarly, the theory predicts that all mitochondrial genomes today should be traceable to a single woman, a 'mitochondrial Eve'. Whereas the Y chromosome is passed from father to son, mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is passed from mother to daughter and son.

In 1987 population geneticists first demonstrated the existence of such a ‘mitochondrial Eve'. After analysing mtDNA from 147 people from around the world to chart their genetic relationships, they used a ‘molecular clock’, based on the number of DNA mutations that arise with each generation, to estimate Eve's age.

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: adam; adamandeve; ancestors; ancestry; creation; davidthaler; eden; eve; familytree; gardenofeden; genealogy; genetics; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; markstoeckle; mtdna

1 posted on 08/16/2013 11:27:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

For a different analysis, check out the presentation by Dr. John Sanford, geneticist from Cornell University (audio presentation or article by Robert Carter, who has worked with Sanford). The words “Genesis” and “genetics” have the same Greek root, related to origins.

2 posted on 08/16/2013 11:28:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The Father of Genetics was an Augustinian friar.


3 posted on 08/16/2013 11:33:50 AM PDT by Borges
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, I should think so.


4 posted on 08/16/2013 11:39:09 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Adam was the first person to think the words “I am.”


5 posted on 08/16/2013 12:00:57 PM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Now, two major studies of modern humans’ Y chromosomes suggest that ‘Y-chromosome Adam’ and ‘mitochondrial Eve’ may have lived around the same time after all.

Gee - whoda thunk it?

6 posted on 08/16/2013 12:05:59 PM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Science is catching up to the Bible!


7 posted on 08/16/2013 12:07:57 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

except for that Big Bang thing

NOTHING can never Bang ....as it doesnt EXIST


8 posted on 08/16/2013 12:18:50 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (This Message NOT Approved By The N.S.A.)
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To: Borges

The father of genetics was G-d.


9 posted on 08/16/2013 12:23:04 PM PDT by serversdude
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Researchers Shed New Light on Genetic Adam and Eve

10 posted on 08/16/2013 12:57:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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11 posted on 08/16/2013 12:58:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: serversdude

The Father of discovering its principles.


12 posted on 08/16/2013 1:10:57 PM PDT by Borges
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To: SeekAndFind

I remember in May, 1980, flying across country while reading a magazine article concerning the discovery of a ‘mitochondrial Eve’. That would be 7-years earlier than this article states.

Makes me wonder what else is inaccurate in Ewen Callaway’s article here.


13 posted on 08/16/2013 1:14:13 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN: BORN IN THE USA OFCITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: SeekAndFind

The reason the female chromosomes appear to come from earlier in time is because the human chromosomes go back to Noah, his wife and sons, and their sons’ three wives. The sons’ chromosomes come from Noah. But Noah’s wife’s and daughters-in-law’s chromosomes would have come from someone farther back in time.


14 posted on 08/16/2013 2:11:58 PM PDT by rimtop56
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To: MeshugeMikey
except for that Big Bang thing

You might be interested in two books I recently read:

Ratcliffe, Hilton, The Static Universe, Apeiron Press. [Argues that the universe is not expanding.]

Lerner, Eric J., The Big Bang Never Happened, Vintage Press.

The "evidence" for an expanding universe is the "red shift" of light from distant stars, presumed to be due to Doppler shift. That's discussed in Arp, Halton, Seeing Red, Apeiron Press. Arp argues that the red shift is due to other factors, not recessional velocity.

These authors are bucking some ideas that have been considered "established" for a long time. Read the books and see what the authors' counter-arguments are. I found them very interesting, but they're outside my field, and I'm not ready to say yes or no.

15 posted on 08/16/2013 4:10:01 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney
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To: JoeFromSidney

Im not terribly well educated. I do know that something needs to be present for something to BANG...to explode....as per the big bang.

eternal existence is clearly beyond my capacity to comprehend but the impossibility of something exploding from nothing..is not.


16 posted on 08/16/2013 7:46:34 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (This Message NOT Approved By The N.S.A.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Yes, the evolutionists just move on pretending the problem doesn’t exist.


17 posted on 08/17/2013 6:41:09 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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