Skip to comments.Israeli Archaeologist Excavates Sobibor Death Camp To Reveal The Nazis' Buried Secrets
Posted on 08/28/2012 7:11:00 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
Israeli archaeologist digs into Sobibor death camp in search of Nazi killing machines
Yoram Haimi's biggest breakthrough yet: mapping of what the Germans called the Himmelfahrsstrasse, or the 'Road to Heaven,' a path upon which the inmates were marched naked into the gas chambers.
When Israeli archaeologist Yoram Haimi decided to investigate his family's unknown Holocaust history, he turned to the skill he knew best: He began to dig.
After learning that two of his uncles were murdered in the infamous Sobibor death camp, he embarked on a landmark excavation project that is shining new light on the workings of one of the most notorious Nazi killing machines, including pinpointing the location of the gas chambers where hundreds of thousands were killed.
Sobibor, in eastern Poland, marks perhaps the most vivid example of the "Final Solution," the Nazi plot to wipe out European Jewry. Unlike other camps that had at least a facade of being prison or labor camps, Sobibor and the neighboring camps Belzec and Treblinka were designed specifically for exterminating Jews. Victims were transported there in cattle cars and gassed to death almost immediately.
But researching Sobibor has been difficult. After an October 1943 uprising at the camp, the Nazis shut it down and leveled it to the ground, replanting over it to cover their tracks.
Today, tall trees cover most of the former camp grounds. Because there were so few survivors - only 64 were known - there has never been an authentic layout of the camp, where the Nazis are believed to have murdered some 250,000 Jews over an 18-month period.
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God, I wish for justice here on earth - but I will wait for eternal judgement.
Some day, we will run America, and we will be called "democrats"...
I’ll say. The one book I read about the extermination camps still upsets me.
As a second generation Christian with a strong Jewish heritage, I couldn’t do this. I have read everything I could get my hands on about this episode of world history and ... I couldn’t do this.
Escape From Sobibor
Looks like a fair number of my relatives died in this camp. I just found it out.
About the only thing that sticks in my mind was the escape scene, with some of the escapees hitting mines outside the camp.
FWIW, IMDB has it starring Alan Arkin, Rutger Hauer, & Joanna Pacula.
On thing has always shocked me was how many people went along with it. From camp guards, to railroad engineers, to educated officers, there was at the very least a criminal and evil detachment employed by thousands of Germans. I never understood it..
One thing has always shocked me was how many people went along with it. From camp guards, to railroad engineers, to educated officers, there was at the very least a criminal and evil detachment employed by thousands of Germans. I never understood it..
I posted the YouTube link in #9.
Dare I say “thanks for posting”?
Constant reminders are needed, especially in the generation of the Fig Tree.
God knows our enemies, those pictured and MORE, yet we mortals seem to need reminders.
Four of the most evil words spoken. “Survival of the fittest”.
I don’t understand, either. Somebody published a photo album of the Auschwitz death camp staff & guards and their wives, at a picnic or something. Smiling, content, enjoying the fresh air.
One would have expected grim looks with jaws set, “look, dammit, we’re just doing our rotten jobs in this cursed war, G-d help us.”
Nothing like that at all in those pics.
When my brother went to elementary school on Long Island in the 50s he had a teacher tell the class ‘those camps’ never existed. It was all a lie.
Thank goodness for this diligence and others to keep telling the story, so it cannot be lied about, ever.
A couple of books I'd recommend if you're interested in understanding it are 1) The Nazi Doctors, by Robert J. Lifton, and 2) The Road to Serfdom, by F. A. Hayek.
Neither book alone will do it, but the two combined ought to put you well on your way to understanding the psychology of how things can reach the point they did in Nazi Germany.
I highly recommend that you find a way to view the film,
“The Boy in the Striped Pajamas.”
on an entirely different level, of course, if you look at our own government and how the Democrats have led us into this disaster that is here and now, you will understand how glib speech, convincing phrases, repetition, can lead an entire country astray. If you appear to be on my side, give me what I want, take from others to give to me, I will follow you wherever you lead....Germans then, Americans now.
>On thing has always shocked me was how many people went along with it.
When the church is not “salt & light” & preaching about sin, clowns entertain the goats, and your country goes to hell right before your eyes.
May we do better.
I echo that sentiment.
I sort of hope The Great Leader actually sidesteps the election. We can then create a Final Solution for Liberal Treason.
It's not the least bit odd that, after 40 years of quietly tolerating their hatred, the concept of feeding all registered democrats into a Sobibor is almost attractive, if for no other reason than to short circuit their lust for ultimate power...
40 million abortions since Roe v Wade. And counting...
The best treatment of the Holocaust, was “War and Remembrance”. There are scenes that will never leave you, pretty gritty stuff for a made-for-TV series in the late 1980s.
There were only two survivors out of 400,000 at Chelmno. I remember the scene in "Shoah" where the ground looks so ordinary but was actually the mass burial ground for all those human beings.
That one is excellent, as is "Devil's Arithmetic" for middle school or high school students in particular.
This book is well researched, sourced from the diaries of FDR's first appointed ambassador to Germany, William Dodd, and from his family's papers. He and family were in Berlin from 1933 to 1937, and saw the day to day ratcheting up of violence and political power. The book covers the internal politics of the National Socialists, the attitudes held in the US State Dept (not surprisingly anti-Semitic, "ruling class" Harvard/Yale types, snobs), and about people they came to know in Germany who simply disappeared, some to the camps that were running even then. This is all well before the official decision in 1942 to mechanize murder on a mass scale (which is another whole area- the Wannsee Conference).
Once you get into this book, the reality will hit you (they were there in real-time) of how this movement developed into institutionalized hatred and murder (not just of Jews, but Catholics, Protestants (Lutherans), gypsies, Poles, masonics- even communists who helped them come up-anyone who was in the way of a totalitarian elitist socialist state). It describes how it was a Leftist movement that started with a wide leftist spectrum. Eerie parallels to the views and actions of the socialist/marxists who are trying to takeover the US today.
“One thing has always shocked me was how many people went along with it.”
I’m Currently reading Hitlerland by Andrew Nagorski which is a chilling account of how this came about from the point of view of journalist and other expats living in Germany at the time. Some had their eyes open while others did not. It’s a fascinating point of view and too familiar for comfort.
Once you look at nazis, then look at bolsheviks- easy to see this is just one wide left wing spectrum of totalitarianism. We cannot be doomed to repeat this- and we won't with our Constitutional Republic. Deo Vindice.
Hans was a German Jew who'd worked as a logger in Canada in the 1930's but had gone back to Germany to try and get his family out. While there, he was picked up by the Gestapo and sent to a work camp, while his family was sent to a death camp.
He ended up in North Africa, preparing defensive positions for the Afrika Korps. He was captured by the Free French, who turned him over to the British, who turned him over to the Americans, and he spent the rest of the war in the POW camp in Alabama, where he spent most of his time working in the cotton fields.
As an interesting side note about Hans, he was responsible for the arrest of three key members of the Baden Meinhof Gang (aka the Red Army Faction). He was out picking mushrooms to help supplement his pension when he smelled woodsmoke. He knew that there weren't any camping areas around, so he crept up the hill and the trio (two males and a female) hiding out in a small hollow. Recognizing them from their wanted posters, he hurried back to his cabin and called the politzei, who responded with overwhelming force. My school class was on a field trip to the politzei station when they were brought in, so it was a memorable event for me.
Perhaps he feels closer to his murdered relatives who died there. To search for facts about the camp could be his way of honoring and doing justice to them in his mind.
>One thing has always shocked me was how many people went along with it.<
Aren’t you shocked how many of our congresscritters and political “leaders” seem to be oblivious of the spread of islam in the US and what the consequences of sharia law will be? What’s so different between islam and naziism?
Or is it perhaps that they value their jobs to the extent that they do not want to rock the boat today but expect their children to clean up the mess tomorrow?
I remember seeing an interview with an old German lady years ago.She talked about hearing the stories of what was happening to Jews throughout Germany and not being able to believe they were true.When it finally sunk in that it was true she said that the congregation in her church sang louder as the rail cars rattled past the back of the church on sundays,full of Jews headed for the gas chambers.
My husband’s family are Jewish. In the late 1930s his grandfather knew what was coming and made repeated trips to northeastern Germany to try to bring his relatives to the safety of the US. All of them were sure that everything would be all right. Only one, a recent graduate from medical school, came. She was standing at the railing of the ship when a Nazi sub surfaced and searched the ship for escaping Jewish people. She vowed that if they identified her she would jump overboard. Thankfully she reached the US safely and became a prominent doctor in Nashville.
33 ... he spent the rest of the war in the POW camp in Alabama, where he spent most of his time working in the cotton fields. ...
The largest in AL, and I think the entire U.S., was in the rural west central AL town of Aliceville. The locals have established a museum of it. Made the trip there last NOV. Other POW camps in AL were established near Anniston (Ft. McClellan), Opelika, and Daleville (Camp, now Ft., Rucker). My mother grew up on a farm in SW Barbour County (east central AL). As a school girl, she remembers the U.S. Army trucks bringing the German POWs to her parents’ farm to work the fields - mostly cotton and peanuts. Her 2 older female cousins (~15) just up the road would stand by the side of the road and wave to the POWs as the trucks drove them by.
See the Hayek quote on my FR profile page. He well-understood that the Nazis and Communists of that era didn’t have a nickel’s difference between them.
It’s the 3rd one down.
That’s a really interesting story! Good stuff.
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
That’s a fascinating story. Thx for posting it.
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Thanks for the book suggestions!
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