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A middle finger to Red Flag laws - do they really expect us to keep all of our guns in one place?
8/28/2019

Posted on 08/28/2019 9:20:15 AM PDT by Enge1934

Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love pvc. Sometimes you just have to admire the chutzpah of the Commie-Democratic party. They live in an insane fantasy world were unicorns leap over rainbow pride flags and we are all just one more law away from living in complete peace and harmony. The only thing is that one law keeps on changing, this time around it’s magic of confiscating guns with red flag laws.

To hear them talk, all they need is the power to send in a SWAT team in at 3:00 AM on a no-knock warrant, kill everyone or everything that looks crossed eyed at them and take every gun in the place and the country will be a perfect. As promised in the declaration of the Constitution and the other old pieces of paper they didn’t learn about in school because they feel asleep in civics class.

What they don’t realize is that every conflict, civil or otherwise, one side will respond to the tactics or techniques used by the other side. Castle walls were knocked down by cannons, AAA was used against airplanes, etc. It’s always a balance of power, one side coming up with a weapon, assault or otherwise, the other countering it with something else.

The Commiecrats have a new weapon that they think will be the silver bullet to the second amendment, all they have to do is pass their newfangled red flag laws and it’s just a matter of time before every gun is picked up.

Three is two, two is one, one is none.

Everyone has heard this line, and it’s something we all need to take to heart. The time is fast approaching where those who have not done this already, need to split up their guns into three groups.

Guns for everyday use, these are your guns that you carry around if you have your CCW or close at hand for home defense.

Second cache, these are the guns stored away for emergency use in your home or close by.. They could be in underground storage or hidden places elsewhere.

Third cache, these are the deep storage guns that will still be around no matter what happens. There have been a lot of instruction guides or videos in how to do this, the point is that these are the guns lost in a boating accident, that the gun grabbers will NEVER get.

Three would be great, but more would be better. There is that saying that the say you have to bury your guns is the day to dig them up. This isn’t about that, this is about telling the Commiecrats that they aren’t going to succeed in their evil plots. It they try to take our guns, more will be available, so there is no point in them ever trying!


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To: MachIV

Over the 20 years most of us have been brainstorming this kind of stuff there really has not been a good answer. We have all been through this again and again. I am always reminded of “beware the man who has one rifle, he likely knows how to use it.” The best answer is have one you know well and keep it to hand. It may be regrettable but if the day comes try to take as many as you can with you. The rest of us will appreciate it. I promise to do my best.


21 posted on 08/28/2019 10:09:58 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Enge1934

such illegal ‘laws’ get about 2 percent compliance level or less
(for obvious reasons)


22 posted on 08/28/2019 10:25:40 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: MachIV

Well, you should be home when that tree comes down. I mean nothing is fool proof. But underground is not possible in many areas. And no threat of sparky the wonder mutt sniffing up a 50 feet up in the air or Mr. Metal detector digging up your stash.


23 posted on 08/28/2019 10:37:06 AM PDT by King_Corey (Buy American - https://madeinamericastore.com/)
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To: Enge1934
To hear them talk, all they need is the power to send in a SWAT team in at 3:00 AM on a no-knock warrant, kill everyone or everything that looks crossed eyed at them and take every gun in the place and the country will be a perfect.

I think that's the general idea of the Left.

24 posted on 08/28/2019 10:40:45 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: MachIV
“Neighborhood militias that could surround the confiscaters.”

This is exactly what will happen. Bundy ranch type standoffs where the confiscators are surrounded ten to one. Moles within law enforcement will tip off the intended target.

Folks we had better turn up the heat to stop the oppresive arrogance of red flag laws or this will end very badly. We need to convince the President these laws will not stop mass murderers and are a clear recipe for disaster.

We also need to reverse the trend of the crazily armed army of federal agencies most of which have no business being armed in any capacity much less having hundreds of tactical teams armed with military weapons and equipment. History has shown this type of build up of arms often proceeds oppressive conquest. This is the reason we see the arrogance of openly talking about forced gun confiscation being considered by democrat presidential candidates and current office holders. In a nutshell they believe they have the military capacity within these federal agencies to forcibly disarm the American people. The Constitution provides for the people to be armed and the central government to establish the military but there is no Constitutional authority for heavily armed federal agencies.

25 posted on 08/28/2019 10:43:21 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: wastoute

I’ve said that too. No point in burying.


26 posted on 08/28/2019 11:15:55 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Enge1934

Okay,


27 posted on 08/28/2019 11:20:58 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: riverrunner; All

Yup. Give up the plastic before treasured blued steel and wood.


28 posted on 08/28/2019 11:28:13 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: wastoute

PVC is impermeable to water, so the leakage was due to the “sealed” end caps. However they were sealed it wasn’t good enough, and I would suspect seasonal temperature variations contributed a lot as the pipe and caps would expand/contract repeatedly.

Maybe we should take a lesson from the ancients. We still find sealed clay pottery jars in the bottom of the Mediterranean that haven’t been compromised thousands of years later. The Greeks and Romans sealed those with ceramic caps and tree resin/pitch, possibly with wax, lime or other simple compounds added.


29 posted on 08/28/2019 11:36:03 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

From what I understand the wine or whatever in those recovered containers is not drinkable. Even though “sealed” and what was inside may have “looked” like wine it was contaminated. Given enough time I suspect nothing is completely impervious. I was surprised to learn from my sailing friend that fiberglass and gel coat were not impervious.


30 posted on 08/28/2019 11:43:27 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

There is quite a bit of difference between burying something in the ground - above the water table - and actually in the water.

Anyone that lives in an area with at lest some variations in the terrain should be able to find an area that will stay dry.

Add to that properly preparing the pvc vault - pipes can keep water OUT as well as in.

What other choice do we have - let the commies confiscate every gun?


31 posted on 08/28/2019 11:43:50 AM PDT by Enge1934 (Protest with PVC - they can't expect everyone to keep all of their guns in one place.)
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To: King_Corey

That will also work.

Below ground level but above the water table or elsewhere.

There is no point in leaving guns in one place, ready to be confiscated.


32 posted on 08/28/2019 11:45:26 AM PDT by Enge1934 (Protest with PVC - they can't expect everyone to keep all of their guns in one place.)
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To: MachIV; All

They can do that, but in most places you can still dispose of your stuff whatever way you want.

Everyone can bank on the commiecrats wanting gun registration if they ever manage to get UBC’s.


33 posted on 08/28/2019 11:49:13 AM PDT by Enge1934 (Protest with PVC - they can't expect everyone to keep all of their guns in one place.)
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To: faithhopecharity

It’s not about the guns. Like Ayn Rand said, the point of these laws is to turn you into a criminal.


34 posted on 08/28/2019 11:49:24 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Enge1934

Like I said. Keep one gun you are very good with to hand. It protects the others.


35 posted on 08/28/2019 11:51:01 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: faithhopecharity

That’s what it sounds like it’s happening in New Zealand.

People know that a gun is a last line of defense, you only get to give them up once.


36 posted on 08/28/2019 11:52:03 AM PDT by Enge1934 (Protest with PVC - they can't expect everyone to keep all of their guns in one place.)
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To: wastoute

The rule of threes (or more) works here as well.


37 posted on 08/28/2019 12:13:32 PM PDT by Enge1934 (Protest with PVC - they can't expect everyone to keep all of their guns in one place.)
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To: Enge1934

Maybe the desert folks can have earthquake accidents.


38 posted on 08/28/2019 12:23:36 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (/S liberally (oops) applied to all posts.)
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To: wastoute

Yes, I’ve heard it’s not drinkable too, but I don’t think it was because seawater got in, but because the chemical reactions that happen in wine eventually changed it into “not-wine”.


39 posted on 08/28/2019 12:37:18 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: trebb
I have my spare guns stashed in the garage of my hard-core lib neighbor...his garage is so full of old Hillary and Obama posters and signs that his car hasn’t fit there for a long time...if the “authorities” want my guns, they can raid his house...

Does he know?

40 posted on 08/28/2019 12:51:05 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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