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NBC's Savannah Guthrie Unintentionally Proves Obama Birth Certificate Tampered With (pencil marks)
BirtherReport.com ^ | May 23, 2012 | Mark Gillar

Posted on 05/23/2012 12:55:05 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

After downloading the file from whitehouse.gov and importing it into Adobe Illustrator, one need only to release the clipping mask in order to see two pieces of vital statistics coding not present on the original Ms. Guthrie photographed. A clipping mask that hides information is in and of itself a clear sign of document tampering, but we'll save that for another day.

Since it is impossible to scan a document and have additional information show up on the computer file that was not on the original, one must conclude that the electronic file Obama released has been tampered with and that the computer file might be the parent of the certified paper copy instead of the other way around. It also opens the possibility that yet another electronic file constructed on computer is the parent of both the certified copy Ms. Guthrie photographed and the electronic file posted on whitehouse.gov. Regardless of the exact cause of this anomaly, one this is for certain: The certified copy of Obama's birth certificate photographed by Ms. Guthrie cannot be the parent of the electronic scan posted for download at whitehouse.gov.

(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama
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As explained by Mark Gillar in the accompanying video, the "vital statistics coding" consists of two pencil marks of the far right edge of the presumed "copy" which are NOT seen on Guthrie's presumed "original." This is not possible.
1 posted on 05/23/2012 12:55:14 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: LucyT; melancholy; null and void; Brown Deer; Red Steel

To examine the Guthrie photo and the scan made available from whitehouse.gov go to

http://www.teapartypowerhour.com/coding

The “masked” and “unmasked” images of the presumed “copy” are compared to the presumed “original”...


2 posted on 05/23/2012 12:58:31 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

You don’t spend millions on lawyer’s fees to prevent the truth from coming out, unless the truth is bad for you. Obama hides his past like a criminal, because he is one.


3 posted on 05/23/2012 1:09:06 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Seizethecarp

Downloading that PDF from the dark lords site and opening it in Adobe Illustrator reveals MULTIPLE layers caused by extensive editing.

If you ever loaded an image into even something as simple as MS Paint and look at a signature you will see the center of the pen/pencil line will be very dark and as you move towards the edges of the line the pixels get progressively lighter.

In one of the edit layers, again from HIS document, reveals a SOLID BLACK line with no graying of the pixels as you look to the edges of the line. IT IS A FAKE AND A VERY POOR FAKE to boot. It takes some time to feather the edges of a signature by manually changing the pixels to a lessor density. BO’s propaganda team were just damned lazy.

Each layer shows different areas of the document being edited. If the political scum had just scanned the BC it would have been ONE layer in the file. I counted more than 20 layers. I guess it is one other skill you don’t have to have to be a community organizer.


4 posted on 05/23/2012 1:12:39 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Seizethecarp

What’s weird is that the layers were never flattened before the PDF was made.

No one who manipulates images with Photoshop doesn’t know this.

Someone wanted to leak proof of the BC fraud.


5 posted on 05/23/2012 1:16:55 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: pallis

I’m no computer expert...but I’ve seen enough to know that there should be a national discussion about this...and experts need to be brought in who can be trusted.

The national media is giving this issue the UFO treatment...keep laughing at the people who report this...and hope it will go away.


6 posted on 05/23/2012 1:18:24 PM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: Seizethecarp

” ... the certified copy she photographed does not match the scan of the certified copy made available for download at whitehouse.gov.

The certified copy Ms. Guthrie photographed is the same certified copy ... posted for download at whitehouse.gov.”

Er, what?


7 posted on 05/23/2012 1:20:38 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: pallis

No, no, no. Obama always tells the truth. Some even here want us to believe that. No way he’d be lying about his past. Just trust his documents.

It’s not like he’s playing games for some unknown reason /huge sarc as if it were necessary


8 posted on 05/23/2012 1:26:39 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Seizethecarp; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...


9 posted on 05/23/2012 1:44:40 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Without having any knowledge of the situation, that image looks strange. My B.C. copy fills up the whole page, and who has a copy of their B.C. that doesn’t? Is that normal?


10 posted on 05/23/2012 1:56:46 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: F15Eagle

According to Bill Ego-Rielly the birth annoucement was in the newspaper so that makes it official.

According to some brainwashed relatives of mine the fact that he was elected proves he’s eligible.


11 posted on 05/23/2012 2:05:59 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: Terry Mross

It is interesting that the name of the son isn’t mentioned. But that may have been common.

Either way, there is something funky going on. What it is, can’t be sure.


12 posted on 05/23/2012 2:12:08 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Brown Deer

What’s with the left-hand side? That doesn’t look right.


13 posted on 05/23/2012 3:13:43 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Talisker

Adobe Acrobat creates layers when you make a PDF from a scanned image. It is trying to separate the text from the background to optimize for character recognition.


14 posted on 05/23/2012 3:30:07 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: FlyVet

The BC does fill the original oage, but it was copied onto the larger green paper. You can see the original outline of cert.


15 posted on 05/23/2012 3:33:33 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: FrdmLvr

The certificate was in a binder, so when they put it on scanner the left side is bent upward toward the binding. Imagine opening a book and placing it on a Xerox machine. The middle will appear to curve away.


16 posted on 05/23/2012 3:35:44 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: MrShoop; Talisker; FlyVet; FrdmLvr
To MrShoop: Where have you been dumbo?
To others: Ignore his BS comments.

What they posted on the White House website is a proven forgery!

Full Video of Sheriff Joe Arpaio Press Conference 3/1/12 - Obama Eligibility Cold Case Investigation
17 posted on 05/23/2012 4:33:15 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer; Talisker; FlyVet; FrdmLvr

You can listen to angry birthers, or you can listen to common sense.


18 posted on 05/23/2012 4:41:15 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: MrShoop
Birther /börthör/ n1. A person who exhibits the audacity to read the U.S. Constitution, and then demands that his/her government actually obeys it.  2. A derogatory term developed and used by Leftists and Neo-Cons in a lame attempt to marginalize those who harbor the silly notions that Truth matters, and that Republics perish who refuse to uphold the Rule of Law.
19 posted on 05/23/2012 4:45:06 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: MrShoop

Please point out to us, the exeact times in that 1-1/2 hour press conference where the angry birthers are or don’t you have any common sense?


20 posted on 05/23/2012 4:49:28 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: MrShoop
I bet you can even explain how ‘birth records’ that two eyewitnesses described as “handwritten” transformed into a standard print-form. No doubt you also believe that when Abercrombie told his friend no BC existed in HI for Barack Hussein Obama, his friend merely misunderstood him. After all, it's so easy to hear ‘no BC exists for Obama’ and think you heard, ‘I don't know what all the hoopla is about; the BC is right there in the file, right where it's supposed to be’. And surely the friend would have asked no follow up questions to such earth-shaking news. He would merely have said, ‘Well that's interesting; how 'bout them Warriors?’
21 posted on 05/23/2012 5:09:10 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: MrShoop
In case it wasn't clear what ‘earth-shaking news’ I was talking about, here's a clarification. Abercrombie's friend repeated the big news all over the place, on air, the following day. I.e.: the big news that no BC existed on file in HI for Barack Obama. If you say his friend was mistaken, then how do you explain how excited and sure of himself he sounded? If you had a friend who was in a position to know, and he told you no BC existed in HI for Obama, don't you think you'd follow up? If all you said was, ‘Are you sure—as in positive—it's not there?’, surely you'd say that much. The anti-birther narrative re: how confused the friend was is just silly. Only a full on moonbat Obot would believe it.
22 posted on 05/23/2012 5:23:12 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: MrShoop
Yes, of course. "Common sense". A favorite tactic of the Left. "If you had any common sense, you'd agree with me."

Nice.

When Dear Leader puts a scan of his original birth certificate out there, for everyone to see, get back to me. And for that matter, let's see his college transcripts, his dissertations, his Illinois Senate records, for starters.

What's the big secret?

23 posted on 05/23/2012 6:23:20 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: FlyVet; MrShoop
Good post. I missed the part where Shoop was talking about common sense. Since you caught it, and while we're on the subject, here's some common sense. If Obama has claimed both Kenya and HI as his birthplace—and he has—how do we know which time he was telling the truth? Or can we be sure he wasn't lying BOTH times? We do know HI has in fact issued COLBs to persons born in other countries. [According to Sheriff Joe, the practice is not that rare.] That would certainly explain the weirdness in HI’s response to Bennett's simple question.

Hmm. My common sense is telling me only one thing for certain: Obama LIES.

24 posted on 05/23/2012 6:40:18 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

If you can show Obama actually claiming to be born in Kenya, it would be a great scandal, and show him to be a liar. He may have lied in his college records, which is why he is hiding them. But unfortunately, so far no one has caught him directly in that lie. It would be more productive to pursue that angle than the ridiculous birth certificate forgery angle which just makes conservatives look like kooks.


25 posted on 05/23/2012 6:47:45 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: FlyVet
Well let me just ask you this, do you now understand why the birth certificate didn't fill the green paper? It was because it was copied onto a larger piece of paper. The original cert (forgery or not) filled the full page, just like yours. Get it?

See, fills the whole page:

26 posted on 05/23/2012 6:52:29 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: MrShoop

We don’t know that he lied about Kenya. He wrote his own bio for the lit agency—which is standard practice—and in it said he was born in Kenya. Maybe he was lying...or maybe not.

Nice how you skipped over Abercrombie telling his good buddy there was no BC on file in HI for Obama. An inconvenient truth?


27 posted on 05/23/2012 6:55:02 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: MrShoop

no, it doesn’t

are you an Obama shill?

I wrote imaging software for a living- this is a FAKE image


28 posted on 05/23/2012 7:03:23 PM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in Palin/Gingrich)
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To: Fantasywriter

That looks more real. But, African is not a race, any more than American or Australian is a race. And that was 1961. Mother is Caucasian, correct. Why wouldn’t father’s race be Negro, which is correct. “African” sounds like modern political correctness. They were politically-correct in 1961? Don’t think so.


29 posted on 05/23/2012 7:07:56 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Talisker
Someone intentionally left a few Easter Eggs in the file to keep all the online Ace Ventura birth detectives and Buckhead wannabees chasing their tails, is more like it.

Obama has problems vis-a-vis eligibility for office, that much is clear from all the sealed records and subterfuge. But, look who's been feeding all the uproar over the birth certificate, the White House itself. "Ooh, look over here!"

30 posted on 05/23/2012 7:10:52 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Fantasywriter
So take a step back and look at the evidence.

Your side:
You have a guy who says he talked to Abercrombie but then retracted his statement and said he was confusing the story with one he read about the hospital not having the long form.

My side:
A certificate has been shown, witnessed by the Hawaii Director of Health, certified by the state registrar in cooperation with the governor, and attorney general of Hawaii. So if you believe that it is a forgery, you need to believe that there is a massive conspiracy that include several of the top elected officials in Hawaii.

So you really think the mike evans story is better evidence than the certified document?

Celebrity Journalist: I Never Spoke to Hawaii Gov About Obama Birth Certificate

31 posted on 05/23/2012 7:12:39 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Mr. K

Why do you think it is fake? If you really wrote imaging software you should understand how weak most of the accusations are. BUt please, share the best argument or two for it being fake.


32 posted on 05/23/2012 7:14:52 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Brown Deer
Please point out to us, the exeact times in that 1-1/2 hour press conference where the angry birthers are or don’t you have any common sense?

Save me the time, and just go look in a mirror. You and others here are exactly who I am referring to.

33 posted on 05/23/2012 7:17:05 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: MrShoop

My side. Two eyewitnesses say the notation was “handwritten”. That is a quote. What was released is not “handwritten”. You cannot honestly say you see nothing amiss w the document released bearing no resemblance to the only two certain eyewitness accounts that exist of it.

And no, it’s not even remotely credible that Evans was simply confused. You have to be a moron and/or an Obot to believe that is the true and honest explanation for what happened.


34 posted on 05/23/2012 7:20:05 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: MrShoop
Save me the time...

What's wrong 0BOT? Can't stand to watch the truth?
35 posted on 05/23/2012 7:21:53 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: MrShoop

It’s a real PDF. Not fake at all. Just as the earlier JPEG files were real, not fake at all.

As to whether the content is an accurate representation, that remains to be seen. I suspect it’s nowhere near being an actionable misrepresentation. A factually correct composite created to avoid highlighting some other event that would raise questions is about as far as I’d be willing to go. They’re liars and they’re concealing something, but they’re not stupid and they’re not willing to put themselves in personal legal jeopardy.


36 posted on 05/23/2012 7:23:22 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: MrShoop
please, share the best argument or two for it being fake.

Here you go again, IDIOT!

http://youtu.be/F1wiGDYPALI
37 posted on 05/23/2012 7:25:53 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: MrShoop; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; ..


Well let me just ask you this, do you now understand why the birth certificate didn't fill the green paper? It was because it was copied onto a larger piece of paper. The original cert (forgery or not) filled the full page, just like yours. Get it?

LMAO, check out what this 0BOT believes is the original BC!
38 posted on 05/23/2012 7:31:12 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: MrShoop; Mr. K
"Why do you think it is fake? If you really wrote imaging software you should understand how weak most of the accusations are. BUt please, share the best argument or two for it being fake."

So I assume you have advanced expertise in imaging? Please share your professional background/skills with us. Be specific.

39 posted on 05/23/2012 7:42:05 PM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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To: Fantasywriter
Will you at least acknowledge that in order for the cert to be a forgery, it would require a massive conspiracy including Governor Abercrobie, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, the Current DIrector Loretta Fuddy, Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, and Attorney General David Louie? And that's just in Hawaii...

Who are the two eyewitnesses? I am aware of the MSNBC article that says:

She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.
I have no idea what she means by half handwritten, but it is in the context of affirming the validity of the cert. For all you know that just means it has all the proper handwritten signatures. Also note that is just a paraphrase by Isikoff, I ve never seen her actual quotation published.
40 posted on 05/23/2012 7:44:57 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Brown Deer

Have you looked in the mirror yet ? I know it is probably a hard thing for you to face.


41 posted on 05/23/2012 7:46:43 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: Miss Behave

Here’s the thing, you don’t need advanced knowledge of imaging to understand how acrobat creates layers. So when someone who claims they have advanced expertise doesn’t understand the basics, it makes me doubt their credibility.


42 posted on 05/23/2012 7:51:25 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: MrShoop
Here’s the thing, you don’t need advanced knowledge of imaging to understand how acrobat creates layers.

There you go again, talking about something which you know absolutely nothing about.
43 posted on 05/23/2012 7:59:52 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: MrShoop

and you need to do a lot of homework before you talk about credibility:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2885601/posts?page=72#72

try that one for starters.


44 posted on 05/23/2012 8:16:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: FlyVet
"Without having any knowledge of the situation, that image looks strange. My B.C. copy fills up the whole page, and who has a copy of their B.C. that doesn’t? Is that normal?"

For some reason I never had my birth certificate, so when time for Social Security came I had to send to the State where I was born and ask for it. I could tell it was a card filled out mostly in my mothers writing, then there was some typed in things, and a doctors signature. This ORIGINAL card was then copied onto that same type of green paper as Obama's.

When my grandchildren were born I filled out all the paper work, but when the Certified Copy came it was all typed up and it filled out the whole page. It was no longer in my orginal writing. Their's is on a pale blue basquet weave paper.

45 posted on 05/23/2012 8:19:50 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: RegulatorCountry

but they’re not stupid and they’re not willing to put themselves in personal legal jeopardy.

see fast and furious and get back to me...


46 posted on 05/23/2012 8:47:01 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Miss Behave; MrShoop; Mr. K; Brown Deer; Fantasywriter; TigersEye
"If you really wrote imaging software you should understand how weak most of the accusations are."

If you can spare seven minutes of your life, check this out and see whether you consider the author's presentation "weak" or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

47 posted on 05/23/2012 9:05:57 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Fantasywriter

Yes, the radio guy. I had forgotten about that.


48 posted on 05/23/2012 9:24:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: MrShoop

The only question is whether you are a volunteer or hired.


49 posted on 05/23/2012 9:27:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; MrShoop

{{{Crickets chirping}}}


50 posted on 05/23/2012 10:25:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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