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To: Fantasywriter
Will you at least acknowledge that in order for the cert to be a forgery, it would require a massive conspiracy including Governor Abercrobie, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, the Current DIrector Loretta Fuddy, Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, and Attorney General David Louie? And that's just in Hawaii...

Who are the two eyewitnesses? I am aware of the MSNBC article that says:

She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.
I have no idea what she means by half handwritten, but it is in the context of affirming the validity of the cert. For all you know that just means it has all the proper handwritten signatures. Also note that is just a paraphrase by Isikoff, I ve never seen her actual quotation published.
40 posted on 05/23/2012 7:44:57 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: MrShoop
I had to go out; I was already late and couldn't wait any longer. I'm back now but limited for time so I'll make this brief.

Check my posting history. I have never called the monstrosity Obama digitally displayed a “forgery”, nor have I ever alluded to a “conspiracy”. What I have said, repeatedly, is that Obama released an “abstract”, which is what in fact he did release. This does not involve criminality on HI’s part. [Though they did obviously participate in making this particular abstract look like something it isn't. That, however, is not a criminal act—just a very deceptive one.] It only makes them an accessory to Obama’s ugly eligibility shell game.

The info on the abstract probably represents what Obama’s record currently looks like, following at least two adoptions. From that perspective, HI can cover their butt by alluding to the COLB, which also reflects the results of Obama’s adoptive machinations. Obama is the real deceiver here. He has released one thing and called it something else. In that sense, Sheriff Joe has him dead to rights, and I hope he nails Obama’s hide figuratively to the wall.

If you've spent half an hour reading over the various anomalies and other issues w the abstract, you would know there's no way it is the original LF BC. Plus, as I said, it doesn't look like the description of the ‘birth record’. As you noted, Fukino said it was half handwritten. That doesn't refer to a fully typed form that has been signed. It refers to a document that is partially typed and partially handwritten.

Here's what Abercrombie said: “It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down.”

He is referring to a notation or a listing, obviously not the standard form typed BC that was released. Unless you are deep in the tank for Obama, you can plainly see that the description of the ‘birth record’ in no way matches the mongrel form that was released. [Mongrel, because it was clearly pasted together from several other documents.]

The abstract is the reason HI gets the vapors when someone like Bennett asks for simple info. HI is walking a tightwire. They have to finagle a way to affirm the info on the COLB w’out referring to the most recently released form as an original LF BC. This explains why it took them three mos to answer Bennett's straightforward and reasonable questions.

Obama is lying like no POTUS has ever lied. You do yourself and no one else any favors by not digging in and informing yourself of the various inconsistencies and issues involved in Obama’s documents. W the MSM and the corrupt HI officials in his corner, Obama has very little to worry about. (Hopefully Sherriff Joe will nail him; Joe's really our only hope right now.) One thing we don't need is to have people shilling for Obama who haven't bothered to educate themselves on his various deceptions. The sooner Obama is called out for his lies, the better it will be for us all.

51 posted on 05/23/2012 10:26:03 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: MrShoop

That is one of the reasons stated why no one believes Obama’s BC is a fraud. Because there could not be a massive conspiracy.

Another congress person stated it would bring a huge constitutional crisis if investigated and found to be fraudulent.

Obama runs a thug administration and sends out his goons to threaten people and their careers. As shown in Canada Free Press one media talk show host was threatened by Obama team if he ever mentioned Obama’s BC on his show.

Obama camp looks ominously like a cult of personality that tolerates no dissent http://is.gd/artYup

Of course Obama keeps his hands unsullied by making sure only his goons do the dirty work.

What I think it true is Obama’s BC is a late or delayed BC. When Hawaii states it is genuine they leave out that part. When the truth comes out they will simply say they told the truth with what information they had available.Remember one of the Hawaii election people said there was no Obama BC available in Hawaii. He looked and could not find it. Obama’s father’s buddy Abercrombie said he could not find it I think.

The visit where Obama handed Toots her death sentence, Hawaii courts were asked to release Obama’s BC. It was if he planned when his grandmother would die so he could handle his little BC problem. Take the pain pill Grandma.

The rest, democrats and republicans will not touch it because they don’t want to be called the dreaded ‘R’ word that will ruin their careers. Obama and Axelrod knew exactly what they were doing. No one will question because Obama is black. Axelrod used this racist strategy in order to get marxists elected and in power. Deval Patrick Etc http://is.gd/EwrZMs

Ways in which Axelrod has sold a fictional character “Obama” to the American public. http://is.gd/HMhnOc

I also think it is possible Obama was born in the US somewhere. But when he needed a free education everything changed. When he wanted to be POTUS everything changed again.

Nancy Pelosi never vetted Obama. I think she believed he had already been vetted as senator. When she found out it was too late and she was not going to give up power she craved. She would play the game. If found out she would say she was clueless like she does with the waterboarding.

Massive conspiracy or very cleverly handled coup d’état? Progressives want New World Order and they needed a plan. Axelrod said Obama would help pave the way to NWO. Biden fell in love with NWO. American people will not go silently into that good night and they knew it.

I am a verifier. I have no clue where he was born. I just believe he is hiding a lot and I believe he is a marxist.

Hitler depended on people not believing in a massive conspiracy.


109 posted on 05/24/2012 10:05:24 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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