Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney

Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.

[John W]

Can I take a shot at it? Some may be focusing on the moderators resigning over perceived bigotry they were not allowed to deal with. Some may think bigotry is bigotry whether it is against Catholics, Mormons, Blacks or Orientals. Some may remember when FR was derided by some for supposedly allowing bigotry to go unchecked. That was corrected eons ago and some may now fear FR has come full circle,

[silentreignofheroes]

OK

[nicmarlo]

RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.

Please. Obama's been acting as Emperor of this country, orders issued by fiat, contravening laws that, yes, our elected official put into place. Does the recent amnesty by fiat come to your mind? Obama's already shown no respect for the rule of law much less listening to ANY elected representatives or Senators. He rules by Executive Fiat. And, mark my words, it will only become worse should he remain in office.

[RaisingCain]

“Sure am sorry that Mitt isn’t a Mason, then you and the other bigots would really be in high clover. Sad to see the site devolve into what it claims to despise..a hate site. Gone.”

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Funny you should say that. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, as well as many early Mormon leaders, were in fact Free Masons. Their temple rituals and symbols are directly inspired and stolen from the Free Masons. Bye bye MittBot.

[so_real]

And so the circular firing squad once more comes into formation and executes.

Any time there is a member of the opposite team at work inside your circle, there will be a circular firing squad. That is precisely why it is so important to keep the opponents out on the field before you clearly marked. Obama is that target. We can all agree to work against him. The same cannot be said for Romney, which gives him the power to do more damage whether he is the "lesser evil" or not.

[Ditter]

Thank you for your words and for sharing your family history with us. God Bless your family.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

My apologies, in advance, to any FReeper parents/relatives of the mentally disadvantaged... but:

... you are, demonstrably, mentally retarded.

Re-read #262... study up on the electoral patterns of Seattle... and then get back to me. Toddler.

[Kevmo]

Thanks for the ping. The title sums up how I view it.

[Monterrosa-24]

“...The Christian Bible warns us ... of false prophets...” I’m pretty cash-strapped Jim but this thread reminded me why FR is the best conservative site. I’m going to pull the plastic and make a Freepathon donation tonight.

[Tex-Con-Man]

CWSBTEXAS - This is the United States of America. No POTUS, even one as bad as Obama, can turn this country into a NAZI Germany.

With great bluster and cluelessness you have, unsurprisingly, missed the point. The lesson is about what a man is willing to do in order to survive. What personal compromises would one make to continue to live. It has nothing to do with turning this country into Nazi Germany.

There is a man in the Whitehouse determined to destroy our economy, and every vote for a viable alternative candidate is a vote to remove him from office. When compared to what a man has to do to survive the Holocaust, voting for Romney sure seems a mighty trivial exercise to me.

[Kevmo]

Plus, he’s a freeper, known as Eternal Vigilance.

[Kevmo]

I agree with you 100%. I’m over this crap.
*** That makes your vicarious opus even worse than hers, in essence. RepoGirl got the zot, and yet you’re still here.

[Kevmo]

I was ready to stop posting against Romney on FR because I thought JR didn’t approve. I don’t want to be a pest in another man’s home.
***Same here.

[manc]

it;s amazing how many on here are having baby tantrums due to the owner of the site not wanting to vote for Romney.
I always had it in me that the left were the baby throw the toys out crowd but these last 24 hours has opened my eyes.

I’ve seen zot me, ban me, close my account, WTH is all that about.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Which is basically another kind of utilitarian argument, one which may be more or less perceptive than the utilitarian argument that posits Romney would be more open to conservative influence of his administration than Obama would be. Nobody’s setting up the straw man here that Romney is any wonderful shakes in the conservative department himself. He is not. He is at best a worrisome waffler. Still! We have two doors to choose between, one of which we will be pushing our shoulders against in 2013. I choose the door which I believe will be easier to push.

[Kevmo]

I was thinking of voting for Kirk and Spock
***I saw a good bumper sticker today: Kobyashi/Maru 2012

[CWSNTEXAS]

You know Sola- I do not normally engage people like you and though I don’t know you, I do.

I have read on this thread about people who were “Mormon bashing” and I would almost bet my “Jew-Gold” you’re one of them- probably the leader of the pack.

The Torah teaches that when you rebuke someone for offenses against the rebuker or for sins against G*d, it should be delivered in private, and spoken gently and tenderly. One is to continue admonishing until the sinner assaults the admonisher and says to him (or her) “I refuse to listen”.

Well Sola- “I refuse to listen”.

[Kevmo]

I was as ABR as anyone here. Ask my friends and family. Over the last month or so, I have come to the realization that, if I want my country to continue to exist, I have to become ABO.
***I believe you are the only FReeper I’ve come across who has been converted from ABR to ABO. Was it due to the stunning logic that the ABO crowd generated on these FR threads?

[Kevmo]

Well he had to wrestle so many pigs in Mass. he got a little muddy. Can’t be helped; but as president he’ll show his true conservative colors
***You really believe that? Then why did one of his top advisers say that he would “etch-a-sketch” his conservative positions?

The man will say anything to be president, and you’re gullible enough to believe him.

[Kevmo]

I’m not blaming you, just trying to understand how you and other ABR FReepers see this all playing out.
***If Romnuts wins, the only way to get a conservative in the office for 2016 is to unseat a sitting republican in the primaries. Ain’t gonna happen. So a romnuts win means 8 more years of librulism.