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Gold coin proves 'fake' Roman emperor was real
BBC News ^ | 4 days ago | Pallab Ghosh

Posted on 11/27/2022 5:10:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv

The coin at the centre of the story was among a small hoard discovered in 1713. It was thought to have been a genuine Roman coin until the mid-19th century... The final blow came in 1863 when Henry Cohen, the leading coin expert of the time at the Bibliotheque Nationale de France, considered the problem for his great catalogue of Roman coins. He said that they were not only 'modern' fakes, but poorly made and "ridiculously imagined". Other specialists agreed and to this day Sponsian has been dismissed in scholarly catalogues...

A chemical analysis also showed that the coins had been buried in soil for hundreds of years, according to Jesper Ericsson, who is the museum's curator of coins and worked with Prof Pearson on the project...

Archaeological studies have established that Dacia was cut off from the rest of the Roman empire in around 260 AD. There was a pandemic, civil war and the empire was fragmenting.

Surrounded by enemies and cut off from Rome, Sponsian likely assumed supreme command during a period of chaos and civil war, protecting the military and civilian population of Dacia until order was restored, and the province evacuated between 271 AD and 275 AD, according to Jesper Ericsson...

Once the researchers had established that the coins were authentic, and that they had discovered what they believed to be a lost Roman emperor, they alerted researchers at the Brukenthal Museum in Sibiu in Transylvania, which also has a Sponsian coin. It was part of the bequest of Baron Samuel von Brukenthal, the Habsburg Governor of Transylvania. The Baron was studying the coin at the time of his death and the story goes that the last thing he did was to write a note saying "genuine".

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: alford; coin; coins; crisisofthe3rdc; dacia; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; hootowl; jesperericsson; romanempire; sponsian; toldinstone; transylvania
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The face of Sponsian, who was purged from history by experts in the 19th century. Researchers have now established that he was a lost Roman emperor
The face of Sponsian, who was purged from history by experts in the 19th century. Researchers have now established that he was a lost Roman emperor

1 posted on 11/27/2022 5:10:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: algore; Hootowl99; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Whoops, thanks algore and Hootowl99 for the link, I've managed to find what I did with your nicks, that I'd planned to use for this message -- they were in the title box, hiding out, mystery solved. [blush]

2 posted on 11/27/2022 5:12:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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The rest of the Crisis of the 3rd c keyword, sorted:

3 posted on 11/27/2022 5:15:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

You couldn’t possibly mean Al Gore, savior of the earth, ‘inventor’ of the net, Beau of Tipper.
When I return later, I’ll read more of the article and find out.


4 posted on 11/27/2022 5:23:43 PM PST by lee martell
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Other additions to the keyword since the Digest -- I was a little slipshod adding this one, not just because it's locked and can't be pinged, it's just some paranoid rant.

5 posted on 11/27/2022 5:25:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: lee martell

Why not? He and I have been buddies ever since I helped him invent the internet. We had lunch just last week, ate a feast from a half dozen endangered species. :^)


6 posted on 11/27/2022 5:27:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Which Presidents will history conveniently forget existed 2,000 years from now?


7 posted on 11/27/2022 5:33:45 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

All of them — replaced by anti-American propaganda fantasies.


8 posted on 11/27/2022 5:42:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: BradyLS

So, it was settled science that they were fake, and now it is settled science that they are not fake. Interesting.


9 posted on 11/27/2022 5:55:49 PM PST by Paperpusher (Gal 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Apparently no ancient literary source mentions him (at least by the name which appears on the coins, Sponsianus). There seems to be some doubt as to whether his bid for power was in the 240s (reign of Philip the Arab) or the 260s (reign of Gallienus).

Communist Romania used to produce a car called the Dacia (a knock-off of a Fiat). I saw one on display at the 1986 World's Fair in Vancouver, BC.

10 posted on 11/27/2022 6:01:53 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: SunkenCiv

Indeed! Lol!


11 posted on 11/27/2022 6:21:43 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Verginius Rufus

Dacias are still built in Romania. Owned by Renault last I knew.

Little Euro cars. Blah.


12 posted on 11/27/2022 6:24:47 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: lee martell

Tipper dumped his sorry ass in 2010. I guess it was the shakra thing.


13 posted on 11/27/2022 6:26:16 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim ( )
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To: SunkenCiv
Why not? He and I have been buddies ever since I helped him invent the internet. We had lunch just last week, ate a feast from a half dozen endangered species. :^)


14 posted on 11/27/2022 7:54:00 PM PST by null and void (Cujo would have been a very short story if the family owned a gun!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Oh, that’s right. Big Al is back on the Market!


15 posted on 11/27/2022 8:24:19 PM PST by lee martell
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To: SunkenCiv

Maybe those were tokens from Sponsonian’s Pizza and Pinball Arcade.


16 posted on 11/27/2022 8:28:32 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: P.O.E.

That grew into the biggest chain in all of Dacia.

His brother was emperor over the border, in Nightcia.


17 posted on 11/27/2022 8:56:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Was a second cousin to Uranus? Asking for a friend 🤣🤣🤣


18 posted on 11/27/2022 9:12:36 PM PST by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sponsian’s rule was spontanious.


19 posted on 11/28/2022 2:32:28 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: SunkenCiv

That does look like algore, doesn’t it?....................


20 posted on 11/28/2022 6:09:25 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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