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My 82 year old, unvaxxed, friend Dave caught the virus
11/05/2021

Posted on 11/05/2021 6:34:17 AM PDT by Az Joe

My friend has been going through a rather prolonged bout with the virus. 13 days in the hospital, still recuperating at home now for the last 5 days. In our circle of friends and acquaints there are many opinions. I wrote this open rant to that circle in response to one kind of opinion that's raised it's perverse, ugly head.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: friend; virus
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To: bray

I wasn’t involved with his treatment. He has a daughter who cares for him.


41 posted on 11/05/2021 7:11:01 AM PDT by Az Joe ("Scratch a Liberal, and a Fascist bleeds")
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To: Az Joe

Two neighbors of mine came down with covid last winter. They were in their early 80’s. One obese, the other with late-stage terminal cancer. Unvaxxed. They survived covid. Cancer took one, about four months after covid. The other still can’t smell much and being widowed after 60 happy years is not something you get over, either...but covid, yeah, you can beat that, even in your 80’s.


42 posted on 11/05/2021 7:11:58 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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To: Az Joe

What killed fully vaccinated Colin Powell, age 84?


43 posted on 11/05/2021 7:11:58 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Think for yourself. (While it's still legal))
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To: Az Joe

Sorry to hear about your friend. May he recover completely.

As for the VAX stuff, I generally don’t weigh in on it as the debate has become downright silly. The battle lines have been drawn and people are acting stupidly to support their positions. People who are clearly at high risk are failing to get the vax. Conversely, people who are at very low risk, such as younger kids, are being pressured to take a vax that will provide little if any benefit to them. Further, the Karen Caucus continued to insist on on dubious measures such as lock downs and masking.

I believe every adult who isn’t allergic should choose to get vaccinated. This is some nasty stuff. It can have long, negative effects even if it doesn’t kill you. Note the operative words: should choose. Not must choose.


44 posted on 11/05/2021 7:13:03 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Culture, culture, culture. Not politics. )
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To: mac_truck

Drive too fast. Have a wreck. Stay away?

No exercise. Heart attack. Stay away?

Armed robbery. Shot by police. He gets treatment.

Your statement is arrogant.


45 posted on 11/05/2021 7:13:33 AM PDT by Shoefus
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To: TheStickman; Pelham

That poster has a made a career here comparing my southern ancestors to nazis

I’m not surprised it would say that sort of crap about vaccines and Covid

Not surprised al all...they always show their hand

Those posters are all leftist you scratch the surface


46 posted on 11/05/2021 7:13:53 AM PDT by wardaddy (Too many uninformed ..and scolds here )
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To: Az Joe

Praise God your friend is recovering!

All the best for his full and comets restoration of his health.


47 posted on 11/05/2021 7:13:55 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: mac_truck
“Unvaccinated Covid patients that end up in the hospital ARE a burden on the rest of society.“

Just stop it already. By that logic, anyone who drinks, smokes, eats too much crap food, doesn’t exercise, etc., is a “burden on society.”

And you act as though there is ANY data or evidence that PROVES that the “vaccines” make any difference (there isn’t), that the risks of the “vaccines” are not significant (they are), and you assume that your irrational fear somehow makes it right to force people to be injected.

You would fit in well in China. Why don’t you start packing, socialist?

48 posted on 11/05/2021 7:17:44 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: BipolarBob
To deny basic medical care for someone because they don't believe like you do is evil.

That doesn't mean such care isn't a burden on the rest of society, does it?

When are you extremists ever going to learn/admit that?

49 posted on 11/05/2021 7:20:22 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: wardaddy

Check out those 10 Commandments sometime.


50 posted on 11/05/2021 7:20:28 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Az Joe

“I find it warped and perverted that those who are most strident, most adamant about people taking the vax seem to enjoy it the most with glee when people who do not get vaxxed are fired, kicked out of school, banished from the public square, and they seem especially happy when that person falls ill to the virus.”

It’s called schadenfreude.

We enjoy it too when a calamity hits the other side as a result of them doings things we object to or find inadvisable, so let’s not be so holier than thou.


51 posted on 11/05/2021 7:21:13 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Az Joe
Dave now has naturally-acquired immunity, the gold standard.

OTOH, some of your vaxxed friends may still acquire COVID, and God help them if they do.

52 posted on 11/05/2021 7:23:20 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least ONE of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, J&J, and MERCK)
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To: babble-on

You really should stop...really.


53 posted on 11/05/2021 7:23:39 AM PDT by goodnesswins (....pervert Biden & O Cabal are destroying America, as planned.)
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To: AppyPappy
I had one friend of 35 years, a healthy man and long time cancer survivor, unvaxed, who came down with COVID, but did not treat it vigorously at first. He ended up spending a few weeks in the hospital before he died of general organ failure. I suspect the medical protocol killed him more than the virus.

I had another close friend - a 70+-year-old unvaxed woman with multiple co-morbidities - who was diagnosed with COVID and pneumonia. She rode it out at home and had a rough time, and I spent several late nights talking with her when should couldn't sleep. She has recovered fully and now has a new lease on life.

When her illness was at its worst and she was struggling to breathe, I asked her if she regretted not getting vaxed. He answer was a most definite "No!".

54 posted on 11/05/2021 7:24:53 AM PDT by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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To: rlmorel

“There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it.”

Aldous Huxley


55 posted on 11/05/2021 7:31:46 AM PDT by dljordan (Slouching towards Woketopia)
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To: Az Joe

It would help.


56 posted on 11/05/2021 7:33:15 AM PDT by bray (Our patience is wearing thin Joe)
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To: babble-on

That’s not the basis of Christianity
It might be for Judaism...

Christ’s sacrifice for us is without question the basis of Christianity

The tenet you’re touting is ....sort of love they neighbor as thyself

Which works Christians always like to use as a stand alone

But it’s a follow up in Christ’s answer.....paraphrased.....love god with all thy might ....and love thy neighbor as thyself

Matthew said that somewhere...

I’m no preacher but I know the basics well enough....southern Baptist upbringing

Which I was just discussing the other day ....spared a man once....I was asked why I didn’t kill a certain transgressor forty years ago ...when I could have with no fear of repercussion...he’d stolen a fortune from me

I knew then i could kill but not murder....which ironically streamlines into your proffer

Executing him would have been stone cold murder....i did not want to stand before God to answer that after my death

Love they neighbor

Wardaddys parable for the day...lol

The hidden truth....I spared him for me...for my soul


57 posted on 11/05/2021 7:33:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (Too many uninformed ..and scolds here )
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To: Az Joe
I had a 85 maybe he was 88 not sure who died a week after the shot. The hospitial said he died from covid that he had before he got the shot. I don't believe that one bit. This happen last year. But another 80+ year old got the shot at the same time and he is still with us. Makes me wonder if some of the vaccines are nothing more then water.
58 posted on 11/05/2021 7:33:52 AM PDT by unclejohncornbread
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To: Sicon
By that logic, anyone who drinks, smokes, eats too much crap food, doesn’t exercise, etc., is a “burden on society.”

You'll get no argument from me on that score...none whatsoever.

However, none of those vices are closing down hospital surgeries so unvaccinated Covid patients can be attended to.

Either choose to follow the advice of doctors or not, but don't change your mind about it when you catch the virus.

59 posted on 11/05/2021 7:34:21 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck; Shoefus
When are you extremists ever going to learn/admit that?

There's nothing extreme about being logical and/or compassionate. Check out post #45. It shows the ignorance and illogical status of your brainwashed position.

60 posted on 11/05/2021 7:37:40 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I had to change my homepage because it was embellished somewhat. Apologies to all.)
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