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Teeth found near Tel Aviv point to a new prehistoric human species
Ynet News ^ | June 20, 2015 | Dudi Goldman

Posted on 06/21/2015 10:29:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Researchers found four teeth in the Qesem Cave near Rosh Ha'ayin (not far from Tel Aviv), and they were astonished at test results that conclude the fossils to be some 400,000-years-old. The significance of this is that it's possible that the origin of prehistoric man is in Israel, and not in East Africa. And an additional surprise is that prehistoric man was mainly vegetarian and not carnivorous.

The cave is 10 meters deep and its surface area is approximately 300 square meters. Researchers have been sifting through it for some 15 years to discover remains from prehistoric times. The ancient teeth were discovered by scientists from Tel Aviv University and other research institutions in the world.

Their examination revealed that they belong to a type of prehistoric man that lived in Israel, and that until now no one knew existed. Science has until now held that humans originated in Africa (Homo Sapiens who developed there about 200,000 years ago.)

Another prehistoric species was the Neanderthal, who became extinct....

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TOPICS: History; Reference; Science
KEYWORDS: anthropology; archaeology; godsgravesglyphs; humans; israel; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; paleolithic; qesemcave; roshhaayin; vegetarian
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To: pepsionice

What is it with you deniers.

The Pope has spoken.

The science is settled.

The earth is flat.


41 posted on 06/22/2015 5:37:55 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“A new species”

Rushing to conclusions here. I know many scientists would love to achieve fame by discovering a new species, but this doesn’t warrant it.


42 posted on 06/22/2015 5:52:30 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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43 posted on 06/22/2015 7:00:31 AM PDT by SJackson (an emotional nation, not a rational nation. You work from your gut and not your mind, BHO on Israel)
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To: CurlyDave

A tribe of people depending on road kill aren’t going to eat meat more than a dozen times in their lives.


44 posted on 06/22/2015 9:27:49 AM PDT by TigersEye (If You Are Ignorant, Don't Vote!)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
Their examination revealed that they belong to a type of prehistoric man that lived in Israel, and that until now no one knew existed. Science has until now held that humans originated in Africa (Homo Sapiens who developed there about 200,000 years ago.)

Uh oh.

45 posted on 06/22/2015 10:00:53 AM PDT by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: TontoKowalski
Tontokowalski: "I find the genetic studies related to the origins of man to be very confusing."

All sciences can be confusing if you don't have enough patience & persistence to study them carefully.

Tontokowalski: "I've read studies that say all humans originated in Africa, some say that other populations rose outside of Africa.
Some say Neanderthal breeding with European populations of early man led to further genetic mutations distinguishing them significantly (and for the better) from populations that did not leave Africa."

There are many hypotheses, and more than one theory, about how pre-humans and early humans developed, migrated and interbred.
Over many years, each new discovery and each new interpretation of old data, has brought one model or another to the forefront of discussion.
If you take the time to bone up on past ideas, then watching new ones unfold can be more interesting.

My point is, these theories are all fascinating, but don't grow too attached to any one of them, because there's every chance over the long term, it'll be overturned.

Tontokowalski: "I think the trend now is that there is no such thing as 'race.' "

What are commonly called "breeds" or "varieties" in nature, we call "race" in humans.
Neanderthals are today thought to be certainly human, but of a different sub-species, meaning still able to interbrede, but not as close as other modern human "races" / breeds.

Tontokowalski: "I don't understand what studies might be slanted because of a desire to separate from African origin, and which may be truth that is being deliberately downplayed because some scholars don't want non-Africa origins."

As of today you can be sure there are some scholars somewhere who defend every recent hypothesis / theory.
"Out of Africa" seems well enough confirmed to withstand an occasional outlier data point, such as these teeth.
But what is not clearly understood is how much interbreding went on amongst the many & various pre-human sub-species and breeds.
So, for more data on that, stay tuned...

Tontokowalski: "Even more unsettling is that both seem to be flatly stated as 'truth' without regard to other possibilities."

No, now you are reading in words which are almost never used in scientific reports -- words like "truth" and even "facts".
Instead, they talk of "evidence" which "suggests" or is "consistent with" or "confirms".
By its nature, science is not so much about "truth" as it is about hypotheses and theories, which are fancy words meaning models, unconfirmed and confirmed.

46 posted on 06/22/2015 11:11:47 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: PA Engineer

It happens a lot with professors.

A good example is called the “Lenski affair”


47 posted on 06/22/2015 11:20:22 AM PDT by ConservativeWarriors
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To: ConservativeWarriors; Eagles6; 2ndDivisionVet
A good example is called the “Lenski affair”

You picked the "Lenski affair?"
48 posted on 06/22/2015 11:27:56 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: BroJoeK
Thank you for taking the time to write a detailed response.

It was interesting.

49 posted on 06/22/2015 11:38:09 AM PDT by TontoKowalski (Satisfied Customer #291)
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To: Veggie Todd

No such thing as “prehistoric human”.
We have a history of Adam and all his descendants.


50 posted on 06/22/2015 11:42:02 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: PA Engineer

That’s an example of a professor not supplying data to an outside mediator.

You think that’s uncommon?


51 posted on 06/22/2015 12:08:11 PM PDT by ConservativeWarriors
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To: PA Engineer

Oh, and when you’re talking about me and my posting history, feel free to ping me as well as it’s poor form to talk about someone without pinging them.


52 posted on 06/22/2015 12:08:11 PM PDT by ConservativeWarriors
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To: ConservativeWarriors
Oh, and when you’re talking about me and my posting history, feel free to ping me as well as it’s poor form to talk about someone without pinging them.

You were pinged. Why are you so sensitive?
53 posted on 06/22/2015 12:17:03 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: gleeaikin

Mitochondrial Eve never existed, it is a modern construct.


54 posted on 06/22/2015 12:45:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: lonevoice

I guess the science about where humans originated isn’t so settled after all.


55 posted on 06/22/2015 1:25:03 PM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: I-ambush; 2ndDivisionVet; SunkenCiv
Professor Gopher:


56 posted on 06/22/2015 2:17:29 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: gleeaikin
American Indians, Neanderthals and Denisovans: Insights from PCA Views
57 posted on 06/22/2015 6:01:20 PM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: TigersEye
A tribe of people depending on road kill aren’t going to eat meat more than a dozen times in their lives.

There are lots of modern scavengers which prove the falsity of your assertion. Think hyenas, buzzards, and vultures. Condors are going extinct not because of the National Rifle Association, but because they evolved to eat the carcasses of dead mammoths. When the mammoths all died off, the condors days were numbered. Primitive tribes can easily find dead animals by simply noting gatherings of scavenger birds. A man can easily chase off the birds and keep the remainder of the carcass.

58 posted on 06/22/2015 10:54:17 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not surprising; Scripture informs the reader that mankind did not eat meat until after The Flood (The Lord did not permit them to eat meat before then). Thus people living prior to that time would have been vegetarian.

“Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything. But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.”
(Genesis 9:3-4)


59 posted on 06/23/2015 1:53:25 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: CurlyDave

Exactly. Tribes of humans wouldn’t have a chance against the animal competition. In the thousands of hours I’ve spent in wilderness country I rarely ran across carcasses that weren’t stripped or rotted beyond nauseum. And that’s with far fewer scavengers in today’s world than existed 400K years ago.


60 posted on 06/24/2015 9:35:02 AM PDT by TigersEye (If You Are Ignorant, Don't Vote!)
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