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1177 BCE, the year a perfect storm destroyed civilization
Haaretz ^ | April 13, 2015 | Julia Fridman

Posted on 05/03/2015 3:35:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sometime after 1200 BCE, civilization collapsed, and a dark age prevailed.

The Late Bronze Age collapse of societies throughout the Levant, the Near East and the Mediterranean some 3,200 years ago has been a mystery. Powerful, advanced civilizations disappeared, seemingly overnight. Now an archaeologist believes he has figured out what lay behind the cataclysm.

The trigger seems to have been the invasion of ancient Egypt in 1177 BCE by marauding peoples known simply as the “Sea Peoples,” as recorded in the Medinet Habu wall relief at Ramses III' tomb. The relief depicts a sea battle (and also carts full of supplies, women and children, something that always puzzled researchers. Why would the women and children have been at a sea battle, and why were there chariots? Did they bring them on ships as well?) The foreigners were depicted wearing distinct head gear....

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TOPICS: History; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: 1177bc; archaeology; bronzeage; bronzeagecollapse; catastrophism; civilization; eberhardzangger; egypt; ericcline; erichcline; godsgravesglyphs; history; levant; medinethabu; peleset; peopleofthesea; pereset; ramses3; ramsesiii; seapeople; seapeoples
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To: yarddog

By the time Ramses the Great [sic] was born, Moses had been dead for centuries.

The Exodus took place at the end of the Middle Kingdom, right at the time of the takeover of Egypt by the Hyksos, a.k.a. the Amalekites.


61 posted on 05/03/2015 5:07:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: proxy_user

And your point is...?


62 posted on 05/03/2015 5:12:30 PM PDT by norton
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can’t read the article without registering. :o(


63 posted on 05/03/2015 5:17:35 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of Darn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One of the most “common” definitions of common is “2.
showing a lack of taste and refinement; vulgar.”
I think that is apt for the people trying to erase Jesus Christ from history.


64 posted on 05/03/2015 5:17:37 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.r)
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To: Mastador1
And yet it stands for Before The Christian Era?

I've always read it, and heard it, as "Before Current Era", which fits with the original BC/AD time lines.

Not terms we're used to or prefer, but accurate enough;
Still, it's academic PC revisionism.

65 posted on 05/03/2015 5:23:03 PM PDT by norton
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To: exnavy
volcano 1177 bce

The Minoan Eruption at Thera. There's always been some speculation that Thera is the source of the stories of Atlantis, that people left the island, and the sailors out at sea spread the civilization to many corners of the earth. It ties a lot together. There's speculation that the Phoenicians are from that civilization, and they're the "sea people" who appeared in so many places.

This speculation ties a lot of things together.

66 posted on 05/03/2015 5:29:21 PM PDT by grania
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To: dp0622
Hard to imagine doing logistics without sophisticated computers or airlifts.

Upon the invasion of Ethiopia by Italy.

"Mobilisation Order by Emperor Haile Selassie - Abyssinia 1936

' Everyone will now be mobilised and all boys old enough to carry a spear will be sent to Addis Ababa '

' Married men will take their wives to carry food and to cook. Those without wives will take a woman without a husband. Women with small babies need not go '

' The blind, those who cannot walk, or for any reason cannot carry a spear, are exempted.'

' Any one found at home after receipt of this order will be hanged.'

67 posted on 05/03/2015 5:31:43 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: proxy_user; Tzfat
Thanks!

68 posted on 05/03/2015 5:31:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: ml/nj
Thanks ml/nj.

69 posted on 05/03/2015 5:32:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: proxy_user

http://www.haaretz.com/life/archaeology/.premium-1.651529


70 posted on 05/03/2015 5:34:56 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: BwanaNdege

yikes!!


71 posted on 05/03/2015 5:35:23 PM PDT by dp0622 (Franky Five Angels: "Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.")
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To: grania

Well it is interesting anyway.


72 posted on 05/03/2015 5:35:43 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: combat_boots
Pope Francis is about to release his encyclical about global warming and is expected to advocate for cutting the fossil fuel use that he and others blame for temperature rises.

Jesuit scientists?

73 posted on 05/03/2015 5:36:14 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: SunkenCiv

It was called Kralizec.


74 posted on 05/03/2015 5:37:18 PM PDT by Perdogg (I'm on a no Carb diet- NO Christie Ayotte Romney or Bush - stay outta da Bushesh)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Downfall of Egypt and —

The Amalekites of the Bible!

http://www.hope-of-israel.org/amalekit.htm

The Egyptian king-lists at Abydos in Upper Egypt completely ignore a period of almost 500 years, and jump from King Amenemhet IV of the 12th Dynasty to King Aahmes of the 18th — why? What occurred during this period of “darkness” that the Egyptians refused to record? Read about the inscriptions on the el-Arish stone and the traditions recorded by the Islamic historians, and how a devastated Egypt was INVADED WITHOUT A FIGHT by armies from the “east.”


75 posted on 05/03/2015 5:42:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: All

No worries

BCE - Before Christian Era
CE - Christian Era


76 posted on 05/03/2015 5:45:27 PM PDT by pajama pundit (Please Don't Hate Me, For Being A Christian)
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To: Perdogg

;’)


77 posted on 05/03/2015 5:47:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: BwanaNdege
Cuts though the BS and gets right down to business didn't he?
78 posted on 05/03/2015 5:53:05 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: fr_freak

Considering that 2/3rds of the world is not Christian why in the heck should a newspaper for a nonChristian nation feel obliged to the minority for something so arbitrary as what year it is? Just be lucky it wasnt in Jewish time or some other religions calender.


79 posted on 05/03/2015 5:54:26 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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The River of Egypt (Wadi el-Arish)
The Biblical and historic Border Between Judah and Egypt
http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-kadesh-barnea-southern-border-judah-territory-river-of-egypt-wadi-el-arish-tharu-rhinocolu.htm


80 posted on 05/03/2015 5:54:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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