Flip a coin?
Posted on 03/23/2006 10:59:34 AM PST by seacapn
Flip a coin?
Boy, we are so lucky to live in a free country where government doesn't attack innocent citizens in the middle of the night, aren't we?
SWAT goes where it is asked and has the lawful instrument supporting that position.
Nazis tried that: "I was just following orders, doing my job.", at the Nuremberg trials.
I will close in saying I am not advocating that all police are righteous. My argument here is the members of the entry team are not at fault for the wrong address. You can point to one guy for that, but of course the police haters have to come on board and start quesioning all police. Until you've done some you do not know what they are like. Read all you want. I am just amazed how many here hate police, but are the same ones that used suck up to them when meeting one in a public forum and then slamming them behind their backs. For all you say I have never seen anyone actually be rude to an officer outside the scope of official business ( like being arrested ). So bacially most are hypocrites, bash them here, but buddy up when then need to stay in good graces to avoid that next ticket.
I too sleep with a weapon and will react to any intrusion the same I you. I just pray I do not have to.
Then there's the case somewhere in the south where the cops broke in on some guy and he did shoot the cop dead. No drugs were found, and the dead cop was the only one who allegedly had the information that led to the raid. But he was the Chief's son, so now the shooter is on death row. There have been a couple of threads about the case here.
So what if they kill 1% of innocent people in their own home, it's for the children.Right?
By the way, Haley Barbour, where are you? Want to stand up for justice and make some fast political hay in the bargain? Call to the MS Attorney General and have him call these thugs with badges on the carpet. That would warm the hearts of millions around the country and show that you are a man of true character.
Excellent question.
The only explanation that comes to my mind is that they didn't want to pay overtime two nights in a row for the same raid. However, in the long run, I suspect this will cost them much more in both dollars and respect.
The smoke of your kind has gotten this whole sordid mess banished to Smokey Backroom.
The public deserves something better than "oops, an accident, we are not to blame" when police harm the undeserving. Why not set up some kind of fund, perhaps fed by legal seizures and fines on legally convicted criminals, to recompense those unfortunates or their families. If an actual criminal is found connected with the injury (i.e. pursuing that criminal resulted in the injury) then the government should sue later to get the compensation back out of the assets of that criminal. But compensation should be paid without the need of the victim to sue.
Wouldn't YOU "buddy up" too? Or would you royally tell the occifer off, assuming you knew the occifer was up to no good.
Same thing you would, that is not what I am arguing. I am not saying the raid was a good one. I am saying that only one officer was at fault for the error, not the entire team.
Good place for it.
I treat them like anyone else, with civility and politeness. That is all that is needed.
Exactly. Ignorance of the law is no excuse for us serfs, so why is it okay for cops to be ignorant?
Hey, the informant called and said the lab is at 666 Swat Street. We just forgot to ask him (her) just where it WAS at 666 Swat St.
This is prolly going to end up with fingers pointing all over the place and nobody taking responsibility.
I.e. you "buddy up"
USMC (I was not a recon Marine injury cut that dream short)
Sworn Deputy (Yes I was on the ERU)
I will grant you that the guys on the team are probably good guys but can you not see that the flash and crash method to serving warrants is dangerous for the public, look if you have have a detctive knock on the door and he takes fire you can use a SMAW on the house for all I care at that point but to send 4-10 masked folks into a house at 0300 is not the way to serve search or arrest warrants.
OPD fails to realize that when he claims authority to be the tail that wags the dog "hey, WE know how to do these entries and don't let the public give us any guff telling us to do it differently or by golly we'll QUIT just like I did" then he takes a responsibility too. Can't have it both ways.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.