Posted on 03/23/2006 10:59:34 AM PST by seacapn
Like I said, chivalry is dead. Any time a suggestion comes out "hey can't they take it a little more cautiously" the retort comes back "well, I want to go home that night." Meanwhile, per capita the gardeners are stabbing themselves to death with their hedge clippers more often than officers fall to miscreants.
I am not the authority, I just know how they are done. I have no problem changing if that is what people want. I get tired of the mindset that all police are power hungry, Rambo type, morons. Most are not, some are.
There is a big band wagon on this forum.
Those stupid thugs decided to make a choice in a situation where there was a 50% chance of screwing up, and you still believe there are only one in a hundred incidents where cops manage to get it wrong.
And SWAT is culpable for guessing where the warrant wasn't exact enough.
Regardless of whose to blame, perhaps the planner of the raid rather than the raiders themselves, it's galling that there is no "innocent victims compensation" for this kind of thing. There are crime victim assistance funds in some places (criminals get hit with surcharges on their fines to fund this) but I ain't never seen an innocent police victim assistance fund.
No I do not, speaking when spoken to is courtesy, trying to drop names, gives discount on meals, going out of your way to engage in conversation etc.. that is sucking up. Pretending to support poice when they are standing around and condemning them when they are not is sucking up.
I never solicited to nor understood the "us versus them" mentality some offiers have when I worked ( just lukcy I guess I did not socialize that much away from work ), after reading some stuff here I fully understand.
I do agree that innocents should be compensated for damages et. al.
That's the problem I have with dynamic entries. I believe such entries should be the last resort to save someone's life, not to seize drugs or other contraband.
I'm a strong supporter of local law enforcement, but I also have the right to discuss policy.
I don't blame the particular cops who entered this granny's house. If I had been a cop, I would have done the same.
I blame the policy that tells cops it's OK to decide which house to enter by looking at the bigger house or by flipping a coin. That's a police administrative issue and a local political issue.
Nothing against cops personally.
Maybe because one or two good "whoopses" would vacuum out a cool million or two. (Though where is all that gold coming from seizures going.)
Why not, it's easier and cleaner to catch the drug lab on the table than to fish it out of the sewer pipe or septic tank.
I can go with that.
I do disagree and think that entries are sometimes necessary, but should not be the first line of response.
I have never sucked up in that sense to a cop in my life. They're suspicious by nature so I act as indifferent as possible.
In Texas what is forfeited to LE on the state level is used for equipment and training costs only. No salaries are paid. If forfeited to a local Sheriff or local PD it is at the discretion of the boss in that dept.
Lesson: Do not resist your overlords even if you are completely innocent.
The British may have entered colonial homes without a warrant, prompting the 4th Amendment, but I believe they did generally knock first.
Police Chief Whaley just made the case for his own removal from office. That has to me one of the most ridiculous and insulting statements ever...
... and in reality most all prefer that over the sucking up. They can see though it in a minute.
As I recall from that list, they rank is somewhere near 30. - just slightly safer than landscape gardeners
"You are a boob......."
You're being too kind, of course forum posting rules prevent us from calling like it is. If they weren't pigs, I mean cops, they'd be criminals. I know, I know, technically they are criminals when they actually behave like this.
That would be for a street officer, not an undercover or SWAT member. Since those numbers are very limited and highly specialized, they do not meet the criteria for the survey based on number per capita in the workforce.
Most of street police work is hours of maddening boredom and paperwork.
Is that the euphamism they're using these days? Makes it sound like a positive thing.
Nice to see we agree on something. :)
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