[One Proud Dad]

I will close in saying I am not advocating that all police are righteous. My argument here is the members of the entry team are not at fault for the wrong address. You can point to one guy for that, but of course the police haters have to come on board and start quesioning all police. Until you've done some you do not know what they are like. Read all you want. I am just amazed how many here hate police, but are the same ones that used suck up to them when meeting one in a public forum and then slamming them behind their backs. For all you say I have never seen anyone actually be rude to an officer outside the scope of official business ( like being arrested ). So bacially most are hypocrites, bash them here, but buddy up when then need to stay in good graces to avoid that next ticket.

I too sleep with a weapon and will react to any intrusion the same I you. I just pray I do not have to.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Wouldn't YOU "buddy up" too? Or would you royally tell the occifer off, assuming you knew the occifer was up to no good.

[Supernatural]

You don't realize the difference between police haters and haters of injustice.

When the police are the administers of injustice you have no call to defend them, unless you think injustice perpetrated by the police is fine with you and you think that the police can do no wrong, no matter what they do.

Too bad the old people whom the police busted up for no reason weren't your parents. Maybe your attitude would be just a little different then.

[george wythe]

I too sleep with a weapon and will react to any intrusion the same I you. I just pray I do not have to.

That's the problem I have with dynamic entries. I believe such entries should be the last resort to save someone's life, not to seize drugs or other contraband.

I'm a strong supporter of local law enforcement, but I also have the right to discuss policy.

I don't blame the particular cops who entered this granny's house. If I had been a cop, I would have done the same.

I blame the policy that tells cops it's OK to decide which house to enter by looking at the bigger house or by flipping a coin. That's a police administrative issue and a local political issue.

Nothing against cops personally.

[glasseye]

"but of course the police haters"

" I am just amazed how many here hate police"

"need to stay in good graces to avoid that next ticket".

Wow, it took you 144 posts to whip out the "cop hater" mantra. You little tough guys usually default to that as soon as someone is not kiss'n your backside.

Oh, and by the way, we are not worried about the next ticket, we are worried about having all our teeth the next time we have to submit to your 'command presence'. I don't hate cops, I just give them the same distance I would as say, a rabid dog.

[supercat]

My argument here is the members of the entry team are not at fault for the wrong address.

If the police have in their possession a facially-valid warrant which properly identifies the address they're raiding and allow for the type of raid in question, and if they have no reason to believe the warrant to be illegitimate, then the police conducting the raid should not be at fault if the warrant was issued for the wrong address.

On the other hand, if a government agent conducts a raid without personally confirming that a warrant exists that allows the specific type of raid at the specific address, and it later turns out that the raid as conducted was not authorized by a warrant, that agent should be jointly and severally accountable for conducting the wrongful raid. If anyone is killed in the raid, the agent should be prosecuted for murder.

If someone is unwilling to accept the responsibility of checking warrants personally, that person should not be involved in any government raids.