MATTHEWS: It's great stuff. I'll send it to you -- it's great -- yeah it's great stuff. Hillary, John Kerry. All these guys, all these democrats, and how they do. And, uh, Frank Luntz did it... DELAY: who I like CM: ...and Hillary did not do well. Kerry did well. DELAY: You're kidding. MATTHEWS: I am NOT kidding. They didn't like Edwards -- they thought he was a rich lawyer, pretending to care about poor people... DELAY: Too slick. Too slick. MATTHEWS: ...and Hillary was a know-it-all. DELAY: Nothing worse than a woman know-it-all