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As work continued into the night on reading the plane's flight data recorder, investigators late Tuesday revealed several new clues about the crash of American Airlines Flight 587, but the information merely deepened the mystery of what caused the accident. With both of the Airbus A300-600's engines and its vertical stabilizer coming down before the rest of the airplane, early accident-related speculation was on a catastrophic engine failure that triggered collateral structural damage. But investigators have found nothing that backs such a scenario, and the near-pristine condition of the tail pieces indicates that something besides debris caused them to ...

<p>WASHINGTON -- Safety records show the American Airlines plane that crashed in New York was severely shaken by air turbulence seven years earlier in an episode that injured 47 people.</p> <p>One possibility safety investigators are considering is that the Airbus A300 broke apart Monday after hitting turbulence from the plane taking off before it at Kennedy International Airport.</p>

Flight 587 from New York to Santa Domingo had just taken off and was arcing into the clear autumn sky when the co-pilot, Sten Molin, felt a violent shaking. What followed was the final 37 seconds for all 260 people on board, revealed in chilling detail by the cockpit voice-recorder of the airliner that speared into a New York suburb on Monday. The American Airlines A300 Airbus had been aloft for just 1 minute 47 seconds when the flight recorder captured what had startled First Officer Molin - described by investigators as an "airframe rattling noise". Seven seconds later, ...

By Don Phillips and Michael Powell Washington Post Staff Writers Wednesday, November 14, 2001; Page A01 NEW YORK, Nov. 13 -- The pilots and crew of American Airlines Flight 587 lost any chance of survival within seconds Monday as the plane shuddered and rattled, possibly hit the wake of another plane flying ahead, lost both engines and its tail fin and went into a spiraling dive, according to information released today by the National Transportation Safety Board. Briefings and interviews throughout the day indicated that the board has assembled an unusual amount of information for this early in an investigation: ...

This entire series of posts and threads on the loss of the AA flight is an amazing display of 2001 sociology. If we thought the internet was going to change people’s commercial activities but not our core behaviors and underlying thought process, we were certainly wrong. Many of us have been following the crash aftermath here in FR. This is not an indictment or criticism of any one poster, not will this post attack anyone. It will ask the question, who are these internet people, and what are we all becoming because oft hem. Even more, it is certainly not ...

<p>Federal investigators said yesterday the co-pilot of doomed American Airlines Flight 587 called for "max power" four seconds after the frame of his A300 Airbus was rattled twice, possibly by the wake of a larger plane.</p> <p>Nineteen seconds later, both engines and the tail inexplicably began tearing free of the plane, which had just taken off for Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, from John F. Kennedy International Airport. The pieces and the rest of the aircraft began falling in a straight line down into the ground. All 260 persons aboard were killed, as apparently were five persons missing from homes that the plane hit.</p>

One of the battered and dented 'black box' flight recorders from American Airlines flight 587 lies on the ground beside a New York City police car as it is taken from the scene of the crash by an FBI agent I noted the 2 black boxes were battered and BLACK. While reading a thread on this site re the BLACK BOXES from NYC on Sept 11..someone posted a link showing the NEW BLACK BOXES in use since 1991 or so... problem they were Bright Orange and Cylindical in shape...Anyone recall the link? Was the the orange box inside the black ...

A rattle heard on cockpit tapes could mean that the stabiliser's bolts were coming out Investigators looking for the cause of the latest disaster to hit New York City, the plane crash that killed at least 262 people, have switched their focus to the aircraft's tail, aviation sources said early today. Evidence from the first of American Airlines flight 587's black-box recorders turned attention away from earlier speculation about mechanical failure in one or more engines, or the notion that birds might have been sucked into the machinery. Instead, it is thought now that the pilots' mentions of rattles, caught ...

Monday November 12 9:06 PM ET Quotes From NYC Plane Crash By The Associated Press, ``This is a horrible, horrible day.'' - New York Gov. George Pataki. ``People were screaming and running. I thought we were being bombed, because I didn't see the plane.'' - Janet Barasso, who wept as she recounted fleeing from her home a block from the crash site with her two sons. ``First I heard a big explosion. Then I saw flames come out from behind the plane. And then a whole wing with the engine fell off.'' - Antonio Villela, a construction worker. ``I saw ...

<p>I have a theory that may explain the events that destroyed American Airlines Flight 587. I have not seen this theory posted or mentioned anywhere.</p> <p>Item: The Vertical Stabilizer and rudder fall off plane with little or no visible damage to their surfaces.</p>

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A preliminary inspection of the engines from doomed American Airlines Flight 587 showed no evidence of internal failure, investigators looking into what caused the airliner to crash, killing up to 265 people, said on Tuesday. "Initial inspection shows no evidence of any sort of internal failure of engines. They all appear to be in one piece," said NTSB member George Black at a news conference. NTSB investigators have been looking very closely at the plane's two General Electric CF680C2 series engines for clues to what caused the airliner to suddenly drop from the sky on Monday ...

Inquiry May Focus on Engine Explosion Experts say GE models have had problems in the past By Sylvia Adcock, Lauren Terrazzano and Tom McGinty STAFF WRITERS November 13, 2001 It was less than three minutes after the wheels of the Airbus lifted from the Kennedy Airport runway that the wide-body jet plunged into the ground from 2,800 feet. It could take weeks or months to find out why. But the evidence so far points to a midair mechanical failure so sudden that the cockpit crew of American Flight 587 had no chance to make a distress call. Investigators are ...

<p>NEW YORK (CNN) -- Federal investigators said they are considering whether "wake turbulence" from another airplane may have played a role in the crash of a commercial jet that crashed Monday, scattering debris over a Queens neighborhood and claiming more than 260 lives.</p>

NEW YORK, Nov 13, 2001 (AP Online via COMTEX) -- Less than two minutes into its takeoff, rattling noises were heard in the cockpit of American Flight 587, and the pilots began losing control of the plane within 20 seconds, investigators reported Tuesday, citing one of the jet's black boxes. The plane's second black box, the flight data recorder, was recovered Tuesday after a 24-hour hunt through a Queens neighborhood staggered by a double dose of tragedy. At least 262 people were killed when the plane crashed. A source close to the investigation said that the NTSB was looking at ...

Fox news is reporting that the flight was delayed 74 minutes due to security (not Mechanical) problems..... HMMMMMM!!!!

At the NTSB press conference, they just stated that both engines appear to be intact and that there are no signs of engine failure, according to George Black, NTSB Boardmember.

Washington, D.C.--Freshman Senator Hitlery Clinton, sitting in her Senate office eating from a large pile of cold nachos, told bootlicking reporters gathered round that she believes President Bush's tax cut program is to blame for the crash of the American Airlines Flight 587 Monday morning in Queens, New York."We had eight years of prosperity under the previous administration, and in eleven short months we've had, what, four or five major plane crashes? Notice, too, they've all come after the irresponsible Bush tax cut plan was enacted," Hitlery declared between swigs of what she described as "medicine water".The sycophants surrounding the ...

For want of a nail, the shoe was lost. For want of a shoe, the horse was lost, For want of a horse, the war was lost. My ears perked up as I listened to the NTSB inspector talking this morning on Fox News. He described how the tail of the plane had sheared off in a clean break before it dropped an engine and wing and crashed into a peaceful Rockaway neighborhood. "What do you think?" I asked my husband. "Bolts," he replied. Fifteen years ago, when my husband took the job as VP of Engineering for a large ...

The American Airlines Airbus that crashed into New York could have suffered an unprecedented disaster when BOTH its engines fell off, it is being suggested today. American air safety sources say both engines from Flight 587's Airbus A300 appear to have broken away from the aircraft before it crashed into the New York suburb of Rockaway moments after take-off from JFK.

American Airlines Flight 587's Crash was NOT an Accident. Angel Shamaya 11.13.01 With all the mediawhores and government mouths telling us that American Airlines flight 587's crash (November 12, 2001) was &quot;an accident,&quot; one need only look at the known facts -- overlaid with the Law of Probability -- to know that they are lying. Consider the following known facts: 1) The airplane that went down was an American Airlines jet. American Airlines was used against America on 9/11. It bears the name of our nation, making it, once again, a juicy target for those who hate our country. ...