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That is good advice.

I am from Israel, and so many American Jews identify being Jewish with the Shoa, Arab persecution, whatever. Even (to a less extent) Haredi with their black cornered caps -— a mark of past persecution.

Being Jewish is a people and a religion.

Teaching that being Jewish means you are going to be a victim is a bad thing, and makes children, especially American Jewish children, not want to be Jewish.

Be strong. Be a soldier. Be Jewish (of any variety you please, in my opinion — there are 12 tribes are room for disagreement).

King David was not a victim.

Take it to them, by all means necesary.

I am in Israel, and didn’t notice.

The arabs just take over what adults build by force, then let it crumble. By that time, they are happy in the rubble.

Assuming he is not Jewish, he could not be a mamzer.

Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

The conventional wisdom in Israel is that it will either be soon so as to not cause a problem, the day after the election in the USA, or sooner if it appears that Obama will almost certainly win.

I love Texas. If I moved to the USA, I would live in Texas.

True. The arab Christians have aligned along tribal lines.

That’s was, and remains, a mistake on their part, but understandable.

The initial re-settlers of Israel were probably unfair to Christian arabs, I think largely because of then-recent re-settlors of Israel from Europe had a serious secular/socialist streak and did not appreciate the significance of theological differences between Muslims and Christians.

Of course, I don’t think the theological differences WERE as extreme back then. Radical Islam, while always present, was not really the mainstream religion. Most arabs were arab first, whatever-religion-they-were second.

Iran is already attacking Israel to the best of its ability and the USA in Iraq.

I doubt much more than a dangerous, but ultimtely futile, volley of missles into Iraq would occur.

The arabs in/around Jerusalem would go on a few more rampages — nothing new there.

A series of isolated devestating attacks is more likely.

Plausible deniability.

“Jerusalem’s Arabs – A Fifth Column?”

My grand parents (among the original modern Israelis) tell me the Arabs in Jerusalem were originally more-or-less friendly, or even allied against Jordan/Eqypt/Syria.

Treaties and deals were struck, or at least understanding made, and the arabs were left alone or treated as equal citizens of a future Israel.

As victims of the recent Ha-Shoah in Europe, they tell me they were abhorred by even the concept of a purge based on religion or ethnicity.

I share their abhirrence on a emotional level, but to me, in hindsight, on a practical or perhaps theological level, this was a repeat of the same more-or-less good-intentioned mistake made by Joshua the first time around.

Ex-patriation, preferably voluntary with financial incentives to leave for their homeland in Jordan, should be persued.

“James and Matthew recall Jesus’ teaching with the same terms and order. In that teaching Jesus confronted the Pharisaic practice of using various formulas to create different levels of oaths, some of which were considered less binding than others. (Cf. Mt 23:16-22.) The Pharisees could thereby bind themselves to their promises in various degrees and so excuse themselves from keeping commitments they had made with lesser oaths. They could use their oaths to sound exceedingly pious and to justify themselves as deeply religious, while being in fact hypocritical. (See Stott’s discussion of Mt 5:33-37, 1978:99-102.) Jesus commanded his followers therefore not to swear but to invest their simple words of yes or no with complete integrity. James follows that passage; we might conclude that he is simply prescribing honesty in speech.”

The Talmud makes similiar admonitions regarding truthfulness.

I, for one, like the masons, although I do not care for the Knight Templar groups. The masons of Europe were very helpful in smuggling out Jews from Nazi Germany. If you look on some of the lists of “rightous people” you frequently see the massonic “half-tiangle” by their names (it’s two lines, like the top of a triangle with various symbols beween the lines).

I would presume your country and my country likes him because they monitor communications between him and Iran.

If it was some other liar for Iran, they would have to recreate the networks.

This way, they know who to kill.

Jews believe in one God.

“The LDS church has no active proselyting missionaries in Israel. It sounds like you just made that one up unless you are confusing them with another relgious group.”

Confusion with some other group is possible, although I don’t think so.

“Mormons consider themselves the Tribe of Ephraim who’s Biblical blessings, some discussing the restoration of Israel and teh continuation of teh Abrahmic covenant, are comporable to the Tribe of Judah’s Blessings.”

Ephraim is an interesting choice. From what I recall in school, the territory of Ephraim was conquered by the Asyrians, the known remnants of the tribe being the Samaritans, certain Persian Jews, and, at least according to tradition and certain recent genetic studies, the Telugu Jews in South India. The Teluga Jews have apparently called themselves Bene Ephraim for hundreds of years, and certainly maintain similar traditions to those of the Mizo Jews, who are known to be descendants of Manasseh.

“Which begs the question freedom of religion? I suppose with Freedom of religion in Israel the Muslims will kill you thing might be a problem. But Christians have proven time and again they will stand by Israel. Why can’t Christian group proselyte in Israel?”

You are confused on this point, and incorrect. Any citizen can do whatever he or she wants to do. CITIZENS can be proselytes for ANY religion. Israel, however, is a magnet for weirdos, so NON-CITIZENS may not proselytize in Israel, and no one can seek to convert children to another religion until they are 18 years of age. There are plenty native Christians in Israel who seek converts from Jews and others. That’s fine by me, but I sure wish hey’d work on the arabs more.

Also, on this point, in Israel Mormons are generally not deemed a Christian or even Noahdic religion, as (it is my understanding Mormons) deny the basic unity of God required by the Shema Israel. (Some of the more strict Orthodox Jews from Arab nations take this position regarding all Christians because of the “Trinitarian” beliefs, but this is not a majority position. Mormons, with the separate bodily “Lord” are, however, deemed by many Israelis as non-Noahadic, and thus pagans.

I have no opinion in that final regard, as stated again, I know next to nothing about Mormons.

“And people wonder what’s wrong with kids today when the whole “feel good about yourself” thing escalates to where you have a baby so he’ll love YOU?”

I can’t disagree. I do also wonder about that girl’s parents —— I suspect a failure to love the child (and thus failing to instill morals -— and creating this need).

You discipline those you love.

“Joseph Smith was an absolute genius for designing a new religion that legitimatized acquiring as much poontang as possible.”

I know little about Mormons, other than their missonaries are very annoying and get deported from Israel for lying about not be missionaries.

Scientology is a serious scam that has hoodwinked many a secular Jew. I opine it is because their very soul cries for knowledge of the divine (perhaps no different than other people, but I do not know other people) -— secularism is empty, and something fills the void. Scientology has an apparent superficial logic to it, is “new” and thus tricks people in.

Neither, however, can hold a candle to Islam. I used to defend Islam as a very valid Noahadic relgion, perhaps closest to Judaism, in that it stresses worship of the one God. I have learned differently.

The fundamental equitable argument of the arabs is that the Jews are European latecomers, which they justify with “creative archelogy” worthy Hitler's beliefs to say the Aryans built the pyramids (and everything else that is spectacular in this world) and the like.

They go around destroying old graves, shuls, and the like.

Truth is, by the the mid-1800’s there was little in all of greater Israel (no such thing as “Palestine”), except some hard core Haredi, various encampments of Samaritans (who are deemed Jews now, under the secular law), and various types Christian monks/priests holding down pretty much empty churches.

Slowly, Jews returned and made something of the place.

Arabs came from Jordan and Syria for work and because the British and Jews were good partners/employers.

These same arabs are now saying there were there first.

It is very similar (but with rockets and suicide bombers) to the Mexican reconquest movement in the United States.

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