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  • Comic Threatened with arrest by Secret Service for Hillary Joke

    12/29/2004 7:39:06 PM PST · 44 of 54
    Wawona to alnick

    His joke WAS on the edge, I will admit, but again, this was a comedy club. He also warned the audience as he always does. If you would have listened to the set up, reaction and the punch line, you would find the editorial was overblown, though the joke is on the edge.

    The joke about the victim marrying her rapist is a true story which can be found on the internet. Chris' joke was not to make light of rape, it was to point out the hypocrisy of thier nuptuals.

    Just like the intent of the use of the "R" and "A" words in the Hillary joke was not to condone either, but to point out the suspected coldness of Hillary's heart as joked about by many.

  • Comic Threatened with arrest by Secret Service for Hillary Joke

    12/29/2004 2:33:14 PM PST · 37 of 54
    Wawona to P.O.E.

    You said it, not me...

    It was Humor. The main reason I brought this to the attention of the board is that Chris is only one of a few Right Wing Conservative Comedians. He has performed with the Right Stuff comedy tour for the RNC and has been featured on Fox, CNN and in the New York Times for his strong conservative views.

    Once, Chris offered to take a bullet for Kerry, had Hillary been his runningmate...

  • Comic Threatened with arrest by Secret Service for Hillary Joke

    12/29/2004 1:38:09 PM PST · 32 of 54
    Wawona to infidel29

    I was in attendence and this club and the comedian is known for incorrect humor. In fact he even asked the audience if he could tell a joke on the subject matter and if one person says no, he passes on the joke. Instead he was encouraged by the audience and they laughed their ass off.

    Secondly, it was not a mean joke about the "R" word and the "A" word, the punch line was what was important which basically inferred that one would partake once the body warmed up.

    There’s actually some legal precedent concerning statements like his. Back in a 1971 interview, Groucho Marx told a magazine, “I think the only hope this country has is Nixon’s assassination.”

    Groucho was not arrested and tried for the statement. Intrigued by the fact that a prominent Black Panther Party leader had been indicted for saying much the same thing, author Paul Krassner wrote the Justice Department for an explanation.

    The response from U.S. Attorney James L. Browning Jr. merits reprinting here. “The United States Supreme Court has held that Title 18 U.S.C., Section 871, prohibits only ‘true’ threats. It is one thing to say that “‘I (or we) will kill Richard Nixon’ when you are the leader of an organization which advocates killing people and overthrowing the Government; it is quite another to utter the words which are attributed to Mr. Marx, an alleged comedian.”

    Browning and the Los Angeles U.S. Attorney felt that Groucho’s statement didn’t meet the level of a “true” threat.

    The joke will never be told and you had to be there to understand. It was humor, just really dark humor.

  • Comic Threatened with arrest by Secret Service for Hillary Joke

    12/29/2004 12:36:47 PM PST · 1 of 54
    Wawona